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  1. Bloody Sunday Charges

    Bloody Sunday: Soldier F faces murder charges http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-47540271

    Well looks like 1 Paratrooper will be brought up on charges with a potential max sentence of life in prison. What are the feelings of the Goaters on this matter?

    IMHO if a crime has been committed then yes the person should be tried as per laws of the land but is this a case of the Government saving face with the public? Will this be trial by media? I also fully believe that the IRA bombers shouldn’t be protected by the 2 year max sentence rule if this para is convicted.


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  2. What I don't understand is that the DPS found sufficient evidence to charge one soldier, but according to the saville report



    Former soldiers were granted anonymity and assured that their evidence to the Saville Inquiry wouldn't be used in any subsequent criminal proceedings.

    So were as the evidence come from to prosecute just one soldier.

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    It'll end in outrage no matter what happens. If he's found guilty, there'll be outrage from the UK and no doubt there'll be a knock-on negative impact to serving soldiers - I'm thinking along the lines of serving members getting concerned that they can be convicted at some point in the distant future for 'doing their job'.

    If he's not found guilty, no doubt there'll be outrage on the Irish side, with potential for stirring up the IRA-pot again.

    Can't win either way.

  4. Quote Originally Posted by Witty_Banter View Post
    It'll end in outrage no matter what happens. If he's found guilty, there'll be outrage from the UK and no doubt there'll be a knock-on negative impact to serving soldiers - I'm thinking along the lines of serving members getting concerned that they can be convicted at some point in the distant future for 'doing their job'.

    If he's not found guilty, no doubt there'll be outrage on the Irish side, with potential for stirring up the IRA-pot again.

    Can't win either way.
    I agree but the defence secretary as come up with the following

    https://www.google.com/url?sa=i&sour...52652552470037

    So they are looking to reform the law on legacy issues and will pay all costs

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  5. Completely self inflicted wound.
    "You have the right to remain silent..."
    Should have said nowt and make them prove things from 45yrs ago, they might not even be able to prove he was there.
    Stupid beyond belief to believe the side that let all the PIRA murderers walk.

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    Its OK though for all those members of the IRA who we have not prosecuted even though they killed innocent civilians!

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  7. Quote Originally Posted by penfold93 View Post
    Its OK though for all those members of the IRA who we have not prosecuted even though they killed innocent civilians!
    Wasn't a law passed for an amnesty for IRA terrorists.

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    Quote Originally Posted by justintime129 View Post
    Wasn't a law passed for an amnesty for IRA terrorists.
    Sort of. Tony Blair had letters written

    "Letters of assurance were sent to more than 200 IRA suspects in the years after the Northern Ireland peace agreement telling them they were no longer wanted by the police. Critics said the letters were effectively an amnesty and a “get out of jail free card” while ministers and officials have insisted it was an administrative scheme that only informed recipients of statements of fact."

    Telegraph article from 2015

    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/113...he-issues.html
    Stents keeping things open 24/7

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  9. One thing which get me wound up, is the fact it's always the foot soldiers who get hung out to dry. Where's the LTs Captains Majors Colonels Brigadiers. Why haven't been held to account. The colonel was ordered by the brigadier to only send one company through the barriers but that order was disobeyed.

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    Whatever happens to this poor schlub whose been hung out to dry by HMG; it will do absolute wonders for Army recruiting!
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