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  1. Quote Originally Posted by busby1971 View Post
    So the majority in a non binding vote in parliament was less than 1% to avoid no deal, not really a killer blow.

    Lets say that UKIP stood back up stating that they will stand candidates in majority leave voting areas and then once Leave was through they would stand down and have a by election, would you, if you were a leaver, vote for them, on this basis?


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    I won't be voting for our Labour MP - my constituency voted 63.8% to leave yet in a recent newspaper article she said that represented a "slight win for Leave". Plus the fact she seems to have her head so far up Corbyn's Hershey Highway I'm surprised her forward vision isn't impaired by his tonsils....

    I won't be voting for the Tories either; I would find it hard to vote for a party where two Ministers charged with negotiating Britains withdrawal from the EU don't even have the cajones to support the very deal they helped draw up.

    LibDems? Not a chance.
    Greens? No way.
    UKIP? Once, maybe - but as JIT points out any party that feels compelled to employ the services of Stephen Yaxley-Lennon will never attract my vote.

    So I guess my choices are either vote for someone ridiculous or simply don't vote at all....
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  3. Quote Originally Posted by ninjarabbi View Post
    In my fishing village (Lincoln) 56.9% voted to leave the EU. Even those who wanted to remain are far from happy with how the EU have acted in their deliberations with the ĎUn-United Kingdomí.

    IMHO Brexit isnít going to happen, not how I wanted, I.e. a complete break from the EU and all itís institutions. I would suggest that all those in leave voting areas look at how their MP voted and act accordingly. They can easily be replaced with another drone.
    How would you expect them to act. If you wanted to leave my club and if you expected to be treated favourably and came back making demands on me I'd get arsey.

    I'm not happy with the deal only because I don't want to leave the EU. The pros far out weigh the cons imho

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  4. I fooked off to live abroad after the referendum so have been watching things from a distance. I generally look at the BBC online and check out the brexit HYS pages. These are generally filled with hate and people seem to be happier hurling childish insults about rather than debating the issue sensibly. Also people I see on TV seem to have taken a stance and refuse to listen, instead making (sometimes) wild claims in order to justify their position. Fortunately most of my social media contacts keep their views to themselves. I think brexit will continue to cause problems whatever happens, all I see is a divided nation

    Had I still been living in the UK I might feel that the result of the referendum was to leave, therefore MPs should forget about party politics and should be pulling their tripe out to deliver on the result. Where I am, I'm not too bothered what happens in the UK although the lack of clarity is having an impact on me here.
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    Quote Originally Posted by justintime129 View Post
    How would you expect them to act. If you wanted to leave my club and if you expected to be treated favourably and came back making demands on me I'd get arsey.

    I'm not happy with the deal only because I don't want to leave the EU. The pros far out weigh the cons imho

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    OK so the UK has offered a large amount of money for a smooth period of transition whilst we agree a future trading agreement.

    When someone leaves your club do you kick them up the arse on the way out and take their wallet?


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  6. Quote Originally Posted by busby1971 View Post
    OK so the UK has offered a large amount of money for a smooth period of transition whilst we agree a future trading agreement.

    When someone leaves your club do you kick them up the arse on the way out and take their wallet?


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    No. I tell them what they owe and tell them to read the small print. I then say if you want some of the benefits I'll see what the members say. Don't come telling me what you want us to do. If you don't like cya.

    If I remember the money involved is only what we agreed to pay for future projects.

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    I'm more than happy for the UK to 'pay it's dues' - if we owe money for things that we have accounted for, then by all means we should pay up - providing of course, that we are still entitled to reap the benefits of whatever it is we're being held to account for. If the EU is expecting us to pay up what we agreed to pay, but at the same time walk away receiving nothing (from within the same accounting period), then I say NO CHANCE, they can ram it. Walk away, keep our money.

    As for the 'deal', personally I'd rather we walked away, draw a clean line between us and the EU, and then renegotiated from scratch - preferably with some decent politicians rather than the clusterfcuk of utter morons currently sat in the Commons. The only deals on offer at the moment will only ever be terrible, because they need to make the deals bad in order to make staying in the EU look more favourable.

    As soon as we get a clean start out of the EU, the trade deals will look a lot better because the EU will lose all of the brexit related power that we're currently letting them walk all over us with.

  8. Quote Originally Posted by Witty_Banter View Post
    I'm more than happy for the UK to 'pay it's dues' - if we owe money for things that we have accounted for, then by all means we should pay up - providing of course, that we are still entitled to reap the benefits of whatever it is we're being held to account for. If the EU is expecting us to pay up what we agreed to pay, but at the same time walk away receiving nothing (from within the same accounting period), then I say NO CHANCE, they can ram it. Walk away, keep our money.

    As for the 'deal', personally I'd rather we walked away, draw a clean line between us and the EU, and then renegotiated from scratch - preferably with some decent politicians rather than the clusterfcuk of utter morons currently sat in the Commons. The only deals on offer at the moment will only ever be terrible, because they need to make the deals bad in order to make staying in the EU look more favourable.

    As soon as we get a clean start out of the EU, the trade deals will look a lot better because the EU will lose all of the brexit related power that we're currently letting them walk all over us with.
    You won't get a better deal than what we've got at present by being in the EU

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    Quote Originally Posted by justintime129 View Post
    You won't get a better deal than what we've got at present by being in the EU

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    No we wont, but we can get a deal. Other countries have managed to negotiate a good deal with the EU despite not being members; why can't this country?
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    The point of leaving is having a fair deal that we agree to.

    I like the point that we have agreed, as a member of the club, to pay some cash out and we expected to receive some cash back as well.

    Also a lot of money we agreed to pay, by being a member of the club, would have benefitted us in the future if we aren't going to benefit anymore i guess we shouldn't have to pay for that either.


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