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Thread: SRO and SSO’s

  1. SRO and SSO’s

    General and random question - do SRO’s and SSO’s apply to contractors (not civil servants) working on base ?.

    Story is RAFP have targeted several Civilian companies for “parking in a NO parking area” - baring in mind that there are no signs/yellow lines etc and when confronted they are quoting “it states in SRO and SSO’s you can’t park there”.

    I know that the companies involved do not have access to DII/MODNet and the building they’re based out of isn’t a MOD one so they’re not on display.

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    Land owner can control who parks where to their hearts content, of course if they’ve no method to communicate it then there’s a flaw.

    Orders can only be issued to people you can command and control, doubt that would apply to contractors.


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    RAFP would be better off doing a Sgt Wilson....... " Would you mind awfully not parking there"?
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  4. As far as I remember the MOD Plods used to take SRO/SSO's and issue the relevant bits to the civvie companies/individuals working on base.

    I do remember a civvie contractor being kicked off camp because he didn't comply with a "parking for driver in vicinity" signage by ATC. That rule would have been explained somewhere in the depths of SSO's
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  5. So they've been asked not to park there, couldn't they just, you know, not park there?

    Maybe quoting SSO/SRO wasn't the best way of dealing with the situation, but if they shouldn't be parking there, then find somewhere else to park instead of trying to find technicalities etc?

  6. Quote Originally Posted by Dan_Brown View Post
    So they've been asked not to park there, couldn't they just, you know, not park there?

    Maybe quoting SSO/SRO wasn't the best way of dealing with the situation, but if they shouldn't be parking there, then find somewhere else to park instead of trying to find technicalities etc?
    They weren’t told they couldn’t park there and there isn’t any signage or any other markings stating it’s a “No Parking” area.

    Unfortunately parking on site is at a premium- especially as the MOD has closed the carpark for this company in order to make a lorry park whilst they resurface the runway so this could be a long term battle with station v companies.

    So saying that it’s in a series of orders which aren’t accessible to the guys to read isn’t trying to find a technicality on trying to get off - plus can’t see what RAFP can do to discipline those contractors who found a ticket on their windscreen
    Asking them to report to the RAFP and produce documents

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    The RAFP will be as much use as a chocolate fireguard in this situation. Its private land, which wont be covered by these private parking firms, because the MOD wont have signed up to their code of conduct etc.

    The only options available are to remove the offenders' car passes, if it truly is so bad and parking is at a premium. This may well have a detrimental effect on the base as these contractors may choose to prioritise work elsewhere where parking is available, and leave you without whatever it is they do until such time as you accommodate them and their vehicles. Alternatively, they could create a space for those who truly need a space. If they are civilians, then they are less likely to be driving the half mile or so from a MQ or barrack block to their workplace, so you may need to look at the bigger picture and who really needs a parking permit on your base.
    Last edited by muttywhitedog; 12-05-2018 at 10:59.

  8. As Mutty has stated the Stn/RAFP can remove vehicle passes and/or ban the individual(s) from unit (worse case).

    But if the situation is as what you say it is, then surely it is time for a grown up conversation? Can the site manager or someone pop to the police flight and speak to the duty grown up? Or send an email to them (always get stuff in writing!)

    Find out what the issue is and try to find a sensible solution/compromise. But both RAFP/Contractors locking horns will not achieve anything.

  9. Contractors must have a permit to work, included in the associated brief will (or should) be the local arrangements for H&S and other domestics such as parking.

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    Could the Contractors all meet at the MGR, after parking their vehicles off camp, form up 3 abreast, then jog down to their workplace under the remit of PEd Staff?
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