How do you employ your AMMs

[HPLO]

Hi I'm back. Just thought I would ask this question, and it is a serious one, about how your nice shiney AMMs are used when you get them. This may seem a bit daft but I'm just doing a bit of research for a mate who doesn't want to give his identity for fear of reprisals from the throbbers he/she works with. Are they used as lineys? Do they do mostly trade? Are they neglected? Are they just dogsbodys? Are they let near LITS?

Please be honest.

[MontyPlumbs]

Originally Posted by HPLO

Hi I'm back. Just thought I would ask this question, and it is a serious one, about how your nice shiney AMMs are used when you get them. This may seem a bit daft but I'm just doing a bit of research for a mate who doesn't want to give his identity for fear of reprisals from the throbbers he/she works with. Are they used as lineys? Do they do mostly trade? Are they neglected? Are they just dogsbodys? Are they let near LITS?

Please be honest.

Our AMMs do the line, T-Bar and work in the supply office (ordering spares!). They don't do LITS, but help out on their respective trades when there's no flying. Some of our AMMs also did towing (the good ones!). Our manpower is so thin our AMMs help out on trade whenever possible, although they are not "Q's" per say, they are a useful set of extra hands (much like the Plumbers taking nozzles off haha).

[Mighty_Wokka]

Originally Posted by HPLO

Hi I'm back. Just thought I would ask this question, and it is a serious one, about how your nice shiney AMMs are used when you get them. This may seem a bit daft but I'm just doing a bit of research for a mate who doesn't want to give his identity for fear of reprisals from the throbbers he/she works with. Are they used as lineys? Do they do mostly trade? Are they neglected? Are they just dogsbodys? Are they let near LITS?

Please be honest.

For the most part - like all of us who came through as SAC's they are Lineys. Yes they may get the odd bit of trade when the cabs are down (more likely on ops in Herrick). When you are short of manpower its daft to put experienced trades on the line when you have AMM's - they should know this. What I can't get over is their moaning if they have to do more than two AF/BFs per shift ffs! If however they show some interest (dare I say keen) then then they may end up over in pulse where they'll be doing trade all day. In my eyes they are there as lineys, get some experience, the odd bit of trade and an afghan tour before they return the cosford. There's plenty of time for the tradework after that.

[Weebl]

Lineying, Tool stores, bit of general dogsbodying (Like everyone has to do when they first join up) Trade assistance where we can and SVC.

I must say, the vast majority of the AMMs I have seen at my place seem well up for getting stuck in, and although they are rotated round the trade desks to get a bit of experience in each trade, They are perfectly willing to come off the Fairy desk if they are a bit slack and do a Rigger servicing with absolutely no moaning. Maybe we just have got some good ones?

[Mighty_Wokka]

Originally Posted by Weebl

I must say, the vast majority of the AMMs I have seen at my place seem well up for getting stuck in, and although they are rotated round the trade desks to get a bit of experience in each trade, They are perfectly willing to come off the Fairy desk if they are a bit slack and do a Rigger servicing with absolutely no moaning. Maybe we just have got some good ones?

yeah I must admit the first batch through were good lads but we have a few rotten apples that have turned up now. I think we would struggle if the AMM's didnt make up 99% of the line, however rotating them round the desks (maybe one or two at a time seems fair)

I have to wonder what the end product will be like, from what I hear the lads going through their 'fitters course' at cosford have no idea when they are leaving plus the course has not been fully written/approved yet they are half way through it.

[PaddingtonStare]

These AMM's of which you speak what the devil are they????

I've never seen one, apparently they aren't being posted onto the soon to be defunct F3, Which is a shame as we could do with some man power.

[fat lazy techie]

Being a producer of AMMs I can't possibly comment on their employment. As for getting any on the air display variant, it ain't going to happen whilst my bottom points south (or so I am lead to believe). Just to enlighten you they could well be likend to the FLMs of old.

[Tashy_Man]

Originally Posted by fat lazy techie

Just to enlighten you they could well be likend to the FLMs of old.

Oh come on be serious.....The FLM's of old would rather headbut/punch you than talk to you....eventually when you got to know them you were allowed to be in the same room without being set on fire...lots !!

This lot of AMM's (from what i've seen) are too "homely".......most trying to get home every weekend even if it does mean travelling the whole length of the UK to see their "mates".......for me as soon as that happens they are in the wrong job...end of.

Crack on........................

[fat lazy techie]

Tashy

I'll reword my description then just for you. Imagine, if you can, a FLM of old who has been brainwashed by the PC brigade and mollycoddled since birth who is struggling to escape the apron strings and lives for the latest playstation/xbox release. Are we almost there?

[Tashy_Man]

Originally Posted by fat lazy techie

Tashy

I'll reword my description then just for you.

No, please don't do it for me....i was never a FLM but only just !!.....if you want to undermine all FLM's that have passed through the RAF by calling them AMM's then on your head be it.

Crack on..................