Smoking in cars... how very dare you!!!

[Flt Lt Badminton-Squash]

The world has gone mad… so as from today you can no longer smoke in your own vehicle…

http://news.sky.com/skynews/article/0,,30100-1286132,00.html?f=rss


The reasoning behind it… so I have been reliably told is…… ‘if you have a ciggy in one hand and light it with the other you are not in control of your motor vehicle’… erm… I have not smoked for a while now so maybe there is a new way of lighting a ciggy that I don’t know of but; don’t you put it in your mouth and then use just one hand (and a lighter!) to light it???

Anyway, just a thought...

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http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/7017543.stm

[wolfy]

I think this has been started here:

http://www.e-goat.co.uk/forums/showthread.php?t=9706

[firestorm]

Ah, RSS readers, don't ya just love em?:PDT_Xtremez_28:

[T55]

And how exactly will the police enforce this rule when they are still unable to stop tw@s on their mobiles?

[Kernow]

The last para of the BBC report is similar to a conversation I have had many times when chatting about the smoking ban in general. IMO I think that it is only a short time before they try to impose a ban on smoking in cars altogether, and then on from that is smoking in your own home. Glad to see that w@nking whilst driving hasn't been specified as a no no, at least one thing has been left sacred (for now):PDT_Xtremez_31:

[NotAnIDOYet]

I think it is fair that the police stop you if you are trying to put a mind altering drug into your body whilst driving.

Only the other week I got a dissaproving look from a rozzer as I drove past necking a bottle of Stella!:PDT_Xtremez_43:

[Isis]

And how exactly will the police enforce this rule when they are still unable to stop tw@s on their mobiles?

Personally I think smoking while driving is worse then chatting on your mobile; not because it means you need two hands to light up (never seen that before) but because of the amount of people I've seen swerving, driving like pilocks and generally paying no attention whatsoever to the road because they have managed to drop ash/the cigerette on themselves or are trying to avoid doing so.

[Albert Park]

It's the ones who 'roll one up' whilst on the move that need a shoeing.

[NotAnIDOYet]

It's the ones who 'roll one up' whilst on the move that need a shoeing.

If I had to roll a fag what would I do with my pie when the phone rings?

[Bluntend]

Actually, I'm all for banning whilst smoking whilst driving. It fcuks me off when the chain smoking tosser in the car in front lobs his glowing cigarette butt out of the window and it bounces of the bonnet of my car. And lighting a cigarette whilst driving has got be be as distracting as fiddling with the radio or using a mobile - both proven to have in creased your liklihood of causing an accident.

[lisab]

Ok fair enough yes flicking cigarettes out of car windows isnt very good etc etc but what about the massive increase in road rage incidents that will arise especially on motorways in traffic jams!!!! As far as the distraction arguement what are they going to ban next, those magic trees hung from your mirror, radios/cds, dogs,......KIDS!!! all these things can be distracting where will it end

[Tashy_Man]

Ok fair enough yes flicking cigarettes out of car windows isnt very good etc etc but what about the massive increase in road rage incidents that will arise especially on motorways in traffic jams!!!! As far as the distraction arguement what are they going to ban next, those magic trees hung from your mirror, radios/cds, dogs,......KIDS!!! all these things can be distracting where will it end

I think they should leave everything alone and ban driving...then you got nothing to worry about !!

I suppose we could keep Buses and maybe at a push Taxis but all private driving tasks should be Banned....put that in your pipe and smoke it !!

Of course it'll never happen....think of the road tax revenue they would lose !!

Crack on.........:PDT_Xtremez_09:

[tonka]

Ok fair enough yes flicking cigarettes out of car windows isnt very good etc etc but what about the massive increase in road rage incidents that will arise especially on motorways in traffic jams!!!! As far as the distraction arguement what are they going to ban next, those magic trees hung from your mirror, radios/cds, dogs,......KIDS!!! all these things can be distracting where will it end

Actually, anything hanging from the rear view mirror (like Magic Trees) can be deemed to obscure your view and can therefore be an MOT failure.
Although I only know of 1 garage that are that pedantic. Its in Knaresborough. Avoid it at all costs.

[DrunkenMonki]

Smoking whilst driving isn't a problem, its smoking then crashing thats the real issue. Silly DVLA.

[Tashy_Man]

Smoking whilst driving isn't a problem, its smoking then crashing thats the real issue. Silly DVLA.

Off Topic
It's like being afraid of flying.....flying isn't the problem, CRASHING is the problem !!

Crack on.................:PDT_Xtremez_09:

[Bluntend]

Ok fair enough yes flicking cigarettes out of car windows isnt very good etc etc but what about the massive increase in road rage incidents that will arise especially on motorways in traffic jams!!!! As far as the distraction arguement what are they going to ban next, those magic trees hung from your mirror, radios/cds, dogs,......KIDS!!! all these things can be distracting where will it end

Actually if you have children in a car, it is your responsibility make sure they are secure and not distracting your driving, the same goes for pets. More and more vehicles now have steering column mounted controls for everything from the CD player to cruise control too. The bottom line is that if you are driving a vehicle you should be in complete control of it at all times. End of.

But on the subject of nervous smokers, exactly how many tabs would it take to calm your nerves after unwittingly driving into the path of oncoming traffic, hitting a car and killing its driver because you weren't paying attention whilst opening a packet of cigarettes and fumbling for the lighter?

[BillyBunter]

Personally I think smoking while driving is worse then chatting on your mobile; not because it means you need two hands to light up (never seen that before) but because of the amount of people I've seen swerving, driving like pilocks and generally paying no attention whatsoever to the road because they have managed to drop ash/the cigerette on themselves or are trying to avoid doing so.


Personally i think thats an unfair judgement, Do you smoke , im a smoker and occasions like that are not very frequent (dropping fag) , the same as people reaching over to put a CD in , tune the radio, drop a sweet , try find your car pass when dropped on floor, lets face it smoker or not we are all guilty of things like that.

When driving a long journey having a cigarette is good sometimes to keep you awake and break the boredom , like having a sweetie.

just another Labourism that they have pumped millions into reasearch for some numpty to make this rule

Well done you cnuts !!!

[busby1971]

Cops will stop you and fine you giv you points for drinking, eating or phoning whilst driving so smoking is just another of these things, Try pulling over into one of those layby things (you'll find them handily spaced out at the side of roads) for a fag, have a rest and have a coffee from poured from a tartan thermos, pop a mint in your mouth then get on your way.

There are so few cops around that getting pulled over aint going to happen that often unless they have a sting operation for the press to see at the side of the road.

[pie sandwich]

Ive smoked for years an never had a problem with lighting up and driving, its just a case of taking your time when doing it, I can do it with out taking my eyes off the road, the tabs are in the little compartment under the radio one hand oens the pack and pulls out a tab, eyes still on road, tab goes in mouth and push on the car cig lighter, (no naked flames) bring cig lighter to cig and away you go, all with one hand on th wheel.

the actual time taken is not more tham a few seconds for each action, and how many people take their eyes of the road to look at what radio station they are on change cd plug in a mp3 player etc, Not to mention how many people look at a txt message they have recived while driving.

There are good arguments for an against doing things in a car which you could say put you and others in danger, we could be here all day th list IS endless.

[Plumber]

OK, speaking as a smoker, I don't see any difference at all between jabbering away on a mobile phone and lighting up a smoke whilst driving. Both have the potential to be distractions from the task of driving safely. So I don't have a problem with this rule at all, remember driving a car is like being in charge of a lethal weapon, treat it as such.

[DrunkenMonki]

Its OK as long as you smoke normally. When I have a crafty tab on the lash I'm a wreck, the buzz knocks me all over! So i'll not smoke whilst driving! I still maintain its crashing whilst smoking that is the real killer, not driving.

[4mastacker]

Why don't they ban farting whilst driving. Come on, be honest, how many of you have let one go then had to waft your hands about to clear the air so that you could see where you're going and get some air. Also, such a ban would be environmentally beneficial cos it would stop the production of greenhouse gasses.

[Realist78]

If my other half smokes me in the car (she's the passenger by the way), does that count as a distraction?:PDT_Xtremez_42:

[Albert Park]

If my other half smokes me in the car (she's the passenger by the way), does that count as a distraction?:PDT_Xtremez_42:
Only if the kids are in the back.

[r0jaws]

What about picking your nose?
I often find dragging out a thick sticky one that insists on yanking all the hair out at the same time whilst making me eyes water like a f@cked fridge a touch distracting.
Then, finding some where under your seat to stick the b@stard or flick at pedestrians. It fair takes my mind off the road.

[Albert Park]

Slightly Off Topic

I sometimes get a touch of Hay-fever and it can kick off the 'Mother of all Sneezing Bouts'. Sneezes, one after the other. Over a 5 second period I must have my eyes shut for at least a second, or more. It doesn't have worry our lass. It certainly puts the $hits up me, especially in high speed or heavy traffic.

[Bluntend]

Slightly Off Topic

I sometimes get a touch of Hay-fever and it can kick off the 'Mother of all Sneezing Bouts'. Sneezes, one after the other. Over a 5 second period I must have my eyes shut for at least a second, or more. It doesn't have worry our lass. It certainly puts the $hits up me, especially in high speed or heavy traffic.


If I remember correctly, it wasn't that long ago that a mother and her two children, who had pulled over to the hard shoulder, were killed when the driver of another car had a sneezing fit, lost control of the car and slammed into them. Not nice.

[Albert Park]

If I remember correctly, it wasn't that long ago that a mother and her two children, who had pulled over to the hard shoulder, were killed when the driver of another car had a sneezing fit, lost control of the car and slammed into them. Not nice.
It wasn't me. I was in bed sleeping off nights, your honour.

[Mrs_Monobrow]

I am a smoker and i always take my time when lighting up. I NEVER take 2 hands off the wheel to do it either, so where that came from i dont know. When mono was giving up, i didnt smoke in the car as it wasnt fair to him, but the craving/habit for a fag drove me nuts to the point of i was driving a little faster so i could hurry up and get out the car to smoke. I found i was a lot more angry with other road users ie, if someone didnt indicate to change lanes on the motorway, normally i would say in a normal voice ''oh yeah thats smart'' but with the craving i found myself swearing and wanting to cut the wanker up! I honestly believe i am a far safer and calmer driver if i can smoke and i fully intend to keep smoking behind the wheel. My kids distract me more than a smoking does!!!!!!

[FairyGoodGuy]

Personally I think smoking while driving is worse then chatting on your mobile; not because it means you need two hands to light up (never seen that before) but because of the amount of people I've seen swerving, driving like pilocks and generally paying no attention whatsoever to the road because they have managed to drop ash/the cigerette on themselves or are trying to avoid doing so.


Couln't agree with you more there m8.... I think driving while smoking is considerably more dangerous than using a mobile, just how it will be policed is another thing ???? They STILL can't get to grips with the mobile phone ban....

[penfold93]

Does this mean you only get prosecuted when lighting up or for smoking cause if they are focusing on the act of sparking up then you just say, 'Of course i was stationary when I lit this cigarette, anything else would be tantamount to dangerous driving and putting other road users at risk and act of total irresponsibility'

What does feck me off is the tw@ts who think its OK to empty the contents of the Ashtray anywhere they like, cnuts.

[Bluntend]

I am a smoker and i always take my time when lighting up. I NEVER take 2 hands off the wheel to do it either, so where that came from i dont know. When mono was giving up, i didnt smoke in the car as it wasnt fair to him, but the craving/habit for a fag drove me nuts to the point of i was driving a little faster so i could hurry up and get out the car to smoke. I found i was a lot more angry with other road users ie, if someone didnt indicate to change lanes on the motorway, normally i would say in a normal voice ''oh yeah thats smart'' but with the craving i found myself swearing and wanting to cut the wanker up! I honestly believe i am a far safer and calmer driver if i can smoke and i fully intend to keep smoking behind the wheel. My kids distract me more than a smoking does!!!!!!


Ok, this isn't aimed directly as Mrs M, especially if she hasn't had a tab yet, but what the fcuk is all this sh!te about having to have a tab to calm your nerves? Should the roads be a more dangerous place because there are a load of people out there struggling with an addiction problem? No. This whole 'I need special dispensation because I chose to smoke and now can't handle the side effects' really grips my sh!t. What next? Disabled badges? Non-smokers have to deal with stress in their day to day lives but don't need to put other people's health and safety at risk to do it - why should smokers get special treatment? If by your own admission you are a dangerous driver when you haven't had a tab, you shouldn't be on the roads. They're dangerous enough without having a psycho behiond the wheel because he/she forgot to stock up at B&H at the last service station.

[Mrs_Monobrow]

Ok, this isn't aimed directly as Mrs M, especially if she hasn't had a tab yet, but what the fcuk is all this sh!te about having to have a tab to calm your nerves? Should the roads be a more dangerous place because there are a load of people out there struggling with an addiction problem? No. This whole 'I need special dispensation because I chose to smoke and now can't handle the side effects' really grips my sh!t. What next? Disabled badges? Non-smokers have to deal with stress in their day to day lives but don't need to put other people's health and safety at risk to do it - why should smokers get special treatment? If by your own admission you are a dangerous driver when you haven't had a tab, you shouldn't be on the roads. They're dangerous enough without having a psycho behiond the wheel because he/she forgot to stock up at B&H at the last service station.

As you say, not directly aimed at me but as it was my post you quoted, i will reply.
I never said anything about smoking to calm my nerves. If i was nervous i would want something a bit stronger/better than a fag. I am not asking for special anything because im a smoker, i do want the right to do what i like in my own personal space though.
I dont smoke because i am stressed either. I smoke because i chose to all them years ago but as you say, its an addiction so i get stressed/tense/edgy/psychopathic (choose whatever term you wish) when i cant feed my addiction. Again, i dont want special treatment, i just want to do what i like in my own personal space. I have 2 young children and if i ever thought for even a split second that my driving, without or without a fag would ever put them in danger, trust me, i wouldnt be on the roads.

[Flt Lt Badminton-Squash]

I remember when I was a smoker; I used to use cigarettes to keep me awake- now I will elaborate a little on that before anyone has the chance… I feel most smokers will agree with this; when on a long journey and when I started to feel tired I used to reach for the fags, it takes your mind off the fact that you are tired and gives you another 30 mins or so of concentrated (yes, concentrated) driving. Now I am not for one minute saying this is right or wrong and, since I have stopped I have not had to do a ‘late at night’ drive so until then I am unable to offer an opinion for either side!

I do believe there are grounds for all side of this ‘discussion’, it is true that no matter how ‘deft’ you are at lighting your particular choice of cigarette, there is an element of risk as you do have to, at some point, take your eyes off the road, either during lighting or extinguishing the cigarette (except for those who have been mentioned earlier, who just throw the lit cigarette out the window without a care for the driver to the rear of them, there is absolutely no excuse for this, this in its self is very dangerous as they may actually burn the door rubber on their vehicle, tut tut, what ever next!) you need to look at the lighter or the ash tray! But by the same token, some children in the backs of cars can be equally distracting, as can pets that should be restrained but are not! What about sat nav, will this be next… some people take great comfort in their satnav to the point of paying too much attention to it… could this new revolution be doomed before its had time to be taxed to death by the government? The list could go on and on really…

The question is, can and will the police enforce this rule… how many people do you still see using mobile phones while driving, there are still a lot of people who just ignore this rule… someone mentioned answering text messages, this happens all the time… you can see the car in front swaying from side to side as the driver tries hard to concentrate on his/her text message with only half an eye on the road. It’s a crazy society in which we live now, I for one hope that I don’t meet these people coming the other way…

Anyway, just a thought…

[Boomerang]

Buffoons the lot of 'em. Everyone knows that it only takes one hand to get the fag and light it, might drop me can of stella which is in the left.

[Bluntend]

...i dont want special treatment, i just want to do what i like in my own personal space.

And there in lies the problem. The more people think that inside their car is 'personal space', the more detached they become from what's going on around them. What about all the other 'personal spaces' travelling at different speeds and in different directions? Everybody has a right to be safe on the road, I just feel its unfair that drivers who smoke feel their need is greater than anyone elses.

[monobrow]

To be honest, if they want to completely outlaw smoking, then they should just up and chuffing do it instead of all these new laws to "restrict" smoking. It was today that they raised the legal age to buy smokes 18. Not a bad idea, but then again whats to actually stop youngsters getting their hands on them? All it is is a "restriction"

So, what next then? they going to stop manufacturers putting radios in cars because the inescent ramblings of Chris Moyles. I can see their aim to promote safe driving, but outlawing it is simply un-policable

[Tashy_Man]

It was today that they raised the legal age to buy smokes 18. Not a bad idea, but then again whats to actually stop youngsters getting their hands on them? All it is is a "restriction"


The legal age to buy smokes went up, the legal age to actually smoke is still 16 as they didn't want to "criminalise" those 16 and 17 year olds that do smoke....crazy !

Crack on..............:PDT_Xtremez_09:

[Plumber]

either during lighting or extinguishing the cigarette (except for those who have been mentioned earlier, who just throw the lit cigarette out the window without a care for the driver to the rear of them, there is absolutely no excuse for this, this in its self is very dangerous as they may actually burn the door rubber on their vehicle, tut tut, what ever next!)



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If the door was all people had to worry about that would be great; What about people on bikes, maybe with the visor up, or people in convertables. Just what you need is someone else's fag butt burning a hole in the leather seats of your new car or even worse copping it in the face.

[busby1971]

The legal age to buy smokes went up, the legal age to actually smoke is still 16 as they didn't want to "criminalise" those 16 and 17 year olds that do smoke....crazy !

Crack on..............:PDT_Xtremez_09:

The legal age to smoke is 5 it is only illegal to buy them under 18. This was on R2 today.

So lets start by banning people from having 5 year olds in the car and work from there.

[Tashy_Man]

The legal age to smoke is 5 it is only illegal to buy them under 18. This was on R2 today.

So lets start by banning people from having 5 year olds in the car and work from there.

5 ????? Now doesn't anyone else think this is just a tadge wrong ??

FFS....might as well give them a can of stella as well !!

Crack on..................:PDT_Xtremez_09:

[Albert Park]

5 ????? Now doesn't anyone else think this is just a tadge wrong ??

FFS....might as well give them a can of stella as well !!

Crack on..................:PDT_Xtremez_09:
It doesn't mean they HAVE to smoke.

Off Topic

It's a bit like those 'All you can eat' buffets in restaurants. It's not a fu(kin' challenge! Is it?

[laboratoryqueen]

One thing which I really really despise is seeing mummy or daddy sat in the front of the car smoking away, while their little cherubs are strapped in the back. WTF are you doing, the amount of smoke they are breathing in, even if the front windows are open, you may as well pass them the B&H so they can spark up and join you.

[Albert Park]

One thing which I really really despise is seeing mummy or daddy sat in the front of the car smoking away, while their little cherubs are strapped in the back. WTF are you doing, the amount of smoke they are breathing in, even if the front windows are open, you may as well pass them the B&H so they can spark up and join you.
Good shout.

When I was coachng kids footy we had a Parent's Charter, which had an agreement that parents would refrain from smoking in the cars whilst carrying players to/from games.

[Bluntend]

If the door was all people had to worry about that would be great; What about people on bikes, maybe with the visor up, or people in convertables. Just what you need is someone else's fag butt burning a hole in the leather seats of your new car or even worse copping it in the face.

Wasn't there a case a few years back of a guy on a motor bike who was injured in a crash after some loser lobbed a fag butt out of his car window and it got caught in the guy's leathers?

As far as restrictions and enforcement goes, anybody seen throwing a fag but out of a car window should be given two on the spot fines - one for driviing without due car and attention and another for littering.

:PDT_Xtremez_32:

[Bluntend]

One thing which I really really despise is seeing mummy or daddy sat in the front of the car smoking away, while their little cherubs are strapped in the back. WTF are you doing, the amount of smoke they are breathing in, even if the front windows are open, you may as well pass them the B&H so they can spark up and join you.

Also, the upholstery will absorb a lot of the toxins in tobacco smoke, so even after the cigarette has burnt out, the interior of the car is still toxic. Opening the window makes little difference.

[laboratoryqueen]

Also, the upholstery will absorb a lot of the toxins in tobacco smoke, so even after the cigarette has burnt out, the interior of the car is still toxic. Opening the window makes little difference.


There's a couple of cigarette burns on the upholstery in my car from it's previous owner, not a good look. And yes I am a smoker I just don't feel a craving for cigarettes when I drive, once I'm behind the wheel I crave my car more than a smoke, plus kids in the car, if I won't smoke around them in the house, I'm not going to do it in a confined space.

[Mrs_Monobrow]

And there in lies the problem. The more people think that inside their car is 'personal space', the more detached they become from what's going on around them. What about all the other 'personal spaces' travelling at different speeds and in different directions? Everybody has a right to be safe on the road, I just feel its unfair that drivers who smoke feel their need is greater than anyone elses.

My car is my personal space. I do not get detatched from whats going on around me. When i say personal space i mean it is mine to do with as i please. If i want to have pink seat covers (i dont by the way!) then i will because it is MY car. If i want to have the music on, i will because it is MY car and if i want to smoke, i will because, yep you guessed it, it is MY car! I take a lot of consideration before lighting my fag because i dont want to crash my car anymore than i want to crash into someone/something else. And yes i do smoke in my car when my kids are in there. Yes i know what smoke will do to them and me and trust me, it kills me that i am not strong enough to give up for their sakes. I am addicted to smoking and i wish i wasnt, but if being a smoker makes me some kind of leper then fine, i am a leper. Judge me, tut at me, slate me, whatever, i have had enough of being treated like some kind of weirdo outcast because i do something that, right now, i feel i cant stop. If i took heroin i would be given a lovely substitute and put in some clinic to help me kick the habit, but smoking they just give you a nice leaflet telling you what you already know and some stinking, itchy patches that have done bu66er all to help me everytime i have tried using them.

Sorry this is a bit of a rant but as i said i have had enough of being judged and treated like the anti-christ because i smoke!

[laboratoryqueen]

My car is my personal space. I do not get detatched from whats going on around me. When i say personal space i mean it is mine to do with as i please. If i want to have pink seat covers (i dont by the way!) then i will because it is MY car. If i want to have the music on, i will because it is MY car and if i want to smoke, i will because, yep you guessed it, it is MY car! I take a lot of consideration before lighting my fag because i dont want to crash my car anymore than i want to crash into someone/something else. And yes i do smoke in my car when my kids are in there. Yes i know what smoke will do to them and me and trust me, it kills me that i am not strong enough to give up for their sakes. I am addicted to smoking and i wish i wasnt, but if being a smoker makes me some kind of leper then fine, i am a leper. Judge me, tut at me, slate me, whatever, i have had enough of being treated like some kind of weirdo outcast because i do something that, right now, i feel i cant stop. If i took heroin i would be given a lovely substitute and put in some clinic to help me kick the habit, but smoking they just give you a nice leaflet telling you what you already know and some stinking, itchy patches that have done bu66er all to help me everytime i have tried using them.

Sorry this is a bit of a rant but as i said i have had enough of being judged and treated like the anti-christ because i smoke!



I smoke and yet I agreed when the smoking ban in public came in, I agree with the not smoking whilst driving. I chose to start smoking and yes trying to quit isn't a great deal of fun, but just because I choose to smoke or feel inclined to smoke because of an addiction doesn't mean other people have to put up with it and certainly not my kids or any ones elses.

[Bluntend]

My car is my personal space. I do not get detatched from whats going on around me. When i say personal space i mean it is mine to do with as i please. If i want to have pink seat covers (i dont by the way!) then i will because it is MY car. If i want to have the music on, i will because it is MY car and if i want to smoke, i will because, yep you guessed it, it is MY car! I take a lot of consideration before lighting my fag because i dont want to crash my car anymore than i want to crash into someone/something else. And yes i do smoke in my car when my kids are in there. Yes i know what smoke will do to them and me and trust me, it kills me that i am not strong enough to give up for their sakes. I am addicted to smoking and i wish i wasnt, but if being a smoker makes me some kind of leper then fine, i am a leper. Judge me, tut at me, slate me, whatever, i have had enough of being treated like some kind of weirdo outcast because i do something that, right now, i feel i cant stop. If i took heroin i would be given a lovely substitute and put in some clinic to help me kick the habit, but smoking they just give you a nice leaflet telling you what you already know and some stinking, itchy patches that have done bu66er all to help me everytime i have tried using them.

Sorry this is a bit of a rant but as i said i have had enough of being judged and treated like the anti-christ because i smoke!

Oh dear. Run out of tabs? Poor Monobrow...

:PDT_Xtremez_27:

[Flt Lt Badminton-Squash]

If the door was all people had to worry about that would be great; What about people on bikes, maybe with the visor up, or people in convertables. Just what you need is someone else's fag butt burning a hole in the leather seats of your new car or even worse copping it in the face.

Plumber- I am sure you got my rubbish attempt at sarcasm but I do agree, I too ride a bike and to be honest, I have never thought of that – a cigarette coming through with the visor up… in fact that does not bare thinking about!
I have had a cigarette burning away while stuck on my ‘windy-wiper’ for short while… I am 100% sure that the person who threw it with no regard would have been quite upset had I just stood in front of him and burnt his car with a cigarette…

Anyway, just a though…

[FairyGoodGuy]

I remember when I was a smoker; I used to use cigarettes to keep me awake- now I will elaborate a little on that before anyone has the chance… I feel most smokers will agree with this; when on a long journey and when I started to feel tired I used to reach for the fags, it takes your mind off the fact that you are tired and gives you another 30 mins or so of concentrated (yes, concentrated) driving. Now I am not for one minute saying this is right or wrong and, since I have stopped I have not had to do a ‘late at night’ drive so until then I am unable to offer an opinion for either side!


Whats wrong with some Pro-Plus and a can of Redbull ??? And before someone starts about drinking a can of Redbull whilst driving you would drink it BEFORE driving as ALL smokers should be doing BEFORE driving. If you feel like you need a TAB and have a long drive ahead of you pull over and take a break (Like all good drivers should do....NOT).

Rant over.....

[rodger-dodger]

Try pulling over into one of those layby things (you'll find them handily spaced out at the side of roads) for a fag, .

No thanks, Have you seen the size of truck drivers sh*t. and to top that people driving by may think that i own the caravan that is always parked up. I'll just continue to smoke on the go thanks.

[Boarderlyne]

The problem is that most of us have been brainwashed into thinking that smoking is 'evil'. Yes, it does do nasty things to your internals. Yes, there is a good chance that you will check out before you should. And the damage it does to kids is scary but not as scary as living next door to a main road is. But let's be honest, if it's as bad as HMG makes out, why don't they come full out and make it a Class A drug?

They haven't, I hear you say. Can't imagine why... The money HMG makes on the back of dirty filthy tabbers is a fair chunk of their play money. Without that income, they would have to curb some of their more extravagant social programmes. But not to worry, they're only smokers. If they want to spark up, then make them pay for it.

If a person wants to smoke in their own car then what is the problem? It is less distracting than putting on make-up, changing a CD, tuning in a radio, telling the kids off, etc. I pull a lot of miles driving on my tod, so why should I pull up every 70 miles or so, so that I can have a crafty puff? Is this not a breach of the Highway Code's advice on using the hard shoulder on motorways? Because I know that there aren't enough lay-bys to accommodate every UK driver that smokes.

[busby1971]

No thanks, Have you seen the size of truck drivers sh*t. and to top that people driving by may think that i own the caravan that is always parked up. I'll just continue to smoke on the go thanks.

I drive trucks and my shyt is quite normal thank you. Additionally I never curl one whilst driving, even though this would be hard to detect (outside of the car).

Now caravans and smokers, theres two reasons not to be allowed on the roads,