LITS Delamination

[The_last_of_TG3]

I am sure that before they the IBM god delaminate LITS that the RAF would decide if it was worth keeping.

[I Look Like Kevin Costner]

I am sure that before they the IBM god delaminate LITS that the RAF would decide if it was worth keeping.

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[Gillo]

Very strange rumour or what.

[Scaley brat]

It's paid for till 2049, it's not going !! :PDT_Xtremez_31:
Delam will let it run as an application on station net computers.

[I Look Like Kevin Costner]

Its got a few years left for the Tonka for a start!!

[Scaley brat]

Its got a few years left for the Tonka for a start!!

Even when gold EPMS walks in it will still run in the background anyway. People are peeing themselves to see the back of LITS like they think it's replacement will be any better or more user friendly..... smell the bloody coffee folks :PDT_Xtremez_31:

[I Look Like Kevin Costner]

Can't wait until Delam comes in. It will allow me to do my job a darn sight quicker and easier..:PDT_Xtremez_31:

[beer]

LITS - is that the system that replaced Baemma in the Tonka world? In a previous life I was the Baemma manager in Bruggen TPF and they started talking about this all singing and dancing system that was being designed by a bunch of South Africans.

[Scaley brat]

LITS - is that the system that replaced Baemma in the Tonka world? In a previous life I was the Baemma manager in Bruggen TPF and they started talking about this all singing and dancing system that was being designed by a bunch of South Africans.

No mate, that was the one we wanted but we could only afford the one we got instead !!



Gonna burn in IBM hell for that comment :PDT_Xtremez_42:

[MrMasher]

LITS was designed by IBM for the south africans and their logistics in their gold mines.

We changed from LITS to WRAM. The Navy use WRAM, its based around web browser pages.
I was told during my WRAM training that it would be replacing LITS............

[Scaley brat]

LITS was designed by IBM for the south africans and their logistics in their gold mines.

We changed from LITS to WRAM. The Navy use WRAM, its based around web browser pages.
I was told during my WRAM training that it would be replacing LITS............

First off it was a diamond mine.

LITS has a lot of automation built into it and is also recognised by the CAA as a replacement for the Section 7. It won't replace LITS because it is an idiot cousin version of ! That's why the swabbies bloody use it.

If WRAM is so great, why do the Army like it so much ?

[FairyGoodGuy]

First off it was a diamond mine.

LITS has a lot of automation built into it and is also recognised by the CAA as a replacement for the Section 7. It won't replace LITS because it is an idiot cousin version of ! That's why the swabbies bloody use it.

If WRAM is so great, why do the Army like it so much ?

Just done 2 years with the Army at Wattisham and used WRAM extensively during this time. The system is great provided you can educate the personnel to maintian the system properly, something that the Army is struggling to do.

From what I was told WRAM is replacing LITS !!! Because the Navy and Army use it..... We are the odd one out..

[Scaley brat]

From what I was told WRAM is replacing LITS !!! Because the Navy and Army use it..... We are the odd one out..

A nice rumour, but LITS and WRAM are both staying. They are getting a common front end which will update the necessary sytem in the background. This way all the LITS live Aircraft will still get all the benefits of the automation while having all 3 services appear to be using the same application.

[MrMasher]

First off it was a diamond mine. My mistake, I remembered it being a mine though! 8/10?

Personally I prefer LITS. I had all the post cats and knew what I was doing.
Unfortunately, its easy for someone to biff it up and relies on people knowing all of the menu steps.
It would appear easier to rectify biff ups on WRAM and people seem to like it better as its fairly easy to use. For instance, the menu steps arent numbered, they are called what they are! For example if you click on "create work order".........:PDT_Xtremez_28:

[Dad Widowmaker]

Where will JAMES 2 fit in ?

[The_last_of_TG3]

Back to the topic of delamination, I can see why it is being done, but IMO it has been rushed out and has a lot of problems with it. It has all the hallmarks that DII/C(S)D still has.

[Scaley brat]

Back to the topic of delamination, I can see why it is being done, but IMO it has been rushed out and has a lot of problems with it. It has all the hallmarks that DII/C(S)D still has.

Just remember your password isn't under those hashes when it offers to save it for you and you should be okay ! :PDT_Xtremez_31:

[Captain Slog]

LITS was designed by IBM for the south africans and their logistics in their gold mines. We changed from LITS to WRAM. The Navy use WRAM, its based around web browser pages.
I was told during my WRAM training that it would be replacing LITS....

LITS utilised a system developed in South Africa by the SA Air Force & Navy. It was used by a diamond mining company to run the Scheduled Maintenance programs of their mining equipment. It was then sold to the RAF to become its aircraft engineering IT System.

The latest information I have is that all rotary aircraft are to be put on WRAM but the fixed wing fleet is remaining on LITS. There are NO plans at this moment to ditch LITS in the foreseeable future.

[monobrow]

To be honest LITS is good at doing what it does. The only downside is when you get garbage input you tend to get garbage out...

Finding and rectifying the bo11ocks inputs that some people put in can take fookin ages and the consequences are usually 1 of 2 things. Over servicing something because someone decided not to do the task on LITS, just "make it so" or grounding a jet because someone switched off or deleted a task because they could....

Oh and for the LITS geeks out there AT3711 is LITS answer to big brother (if I remember rightly).

[Scaley brat]

To be honest LITS is good at doing what it does. The only downside is when you get garbage input you tend to get garbage out...

Finding and rectifying the bo11ocks inputs that some people put in can take fookin ages and the consequences are usually 1 of 2 things. Over servicing something because someone decided not to do the task on LITS, just "make it so" or grounding a jet because someone switched off or deleted a task because they could....

Oh and for the LITS geeks out there AT3711 is LITS answer to big brother (if I remember rightly).

Don't give all our secrets away you throbber :PDT_Xtremez_42: , people think it's LITS magic when you tell what they did to what , when they did it and what bullsh1t reason they gave.


AUT0015 is good too !

same thing more guilty parties. :PDT_Xtremez_31:

Leave alone you barstewards. :PDT_Xtremez_25:

[monobrow]

mate, it's not like mere mortals can run that one! And those who decide they "need" 333 wouldn't have a ferking scooby as to how to actually use it!!!!

::D:

[Scaley brat]

mate, it's not like mere mortals can run that one! And those who decide they "need" 333 wouldn't have a ferking scooby as to how to actually use it!!!!

::D:

The shock in the voice when you tell them you know full well it was them, then tell them their service number.... fekkin priceless :PDT_Xtremez_05:

[monobrow]

Theres 2 guys who still try the....

"Wasn't me guv!!!"
"Right, and you are X1234567 Bloggs are you not? Remember doing some LITS at about 3:00pm on the 14th December? No? Shall I remind you?"

[Dad Widowmaker]

As per my earlier question I have been told that JAMES 2 will take over form lits and wram

Can some one enlighten me

[Scaley brat]

As per my earlier question I have been told that JAMES 2 will take over form lits and wram

Can some one enlighten me

I refer you to my previous answer. LITS is payed for till 2049. It's not going away.
James 2 is a front end. It will supposedly populate WRAM or LITS depending on which system the asset is on. I just hope it will populate both for things like winches, but I'm not holding my breath. These things are always ordered by people who:
1. Don't have to use what they bought.
2. Don't have a clue about what we NEED.

[Past Engineering]

Trouble with most IT systems like SEMA/SAMA before LITS and DMS/IAMS (not the pet food) and ESS on Typhoon is if the system is not secure enough and stops people from entering flawed data that they shouldn't, then the system becomes corrupt and is of little use, the old saying of 'garbage in, garbage out' springs to mind.

I also remember the stock phrases with the introduction of each of the above pieces of software/updates we will become a paper less airforce, the retrieval of data, the analysis of data and the logistics management will be so much quicker, slicker and easier. Since the introduction of these software solutions I have seen more paperwork produced and it seems to actually take longer to do do some jobs than it used to. Maybe I am getting to old for this modern malarky.

From my understanding of LITS delamination it should actually be an improvement as anyone with LITS account can access LITS from any computer (newer/faster) and printer instead of having dedicated LITS terminals (old/slow, and not many of them either).

SB: I was going to mention your point 2 as we still suffer from that problem in civvie street as well

[monobrow]

JAMES2 (after some googling) has absolutely nothing to do with air assets.

It's all about electronic documentation of land assets (read army). However the way it is built, it is a centralised system that anyone can log into, much like a delaminated LITS system....

Perhaps this is to pave the way for a possible culmination into a common front end so no matter what aircraft you work on, you will do docs the same way.

Hope this helps