View Full Version : Reducing Htd Rates!!!!!
Heres a gem for you all. The RAF in their infinate wisdom have decided to reduce the Home To Duty rates and all petrol claims as from 01 Aug 07 due to, and I quote "due to the reduction of petrol costs and the servicing of cars" ::/: .
I for one have not seen these reduction in running costs. Am I living in a bubble and everyone in the Country is seeing these reducing petrol and servicing costs?
What are these people thinking of :raf: . The hierarchy have no idea of whats happening outside their ivory towers. Its no wonder the PVR rates are so high. Saving money, sack these fcuking idiots who make these decisions.
Bafoon.
Maybe Mr.Brown has had a nice chat with them? :PDT_Xtremez_35:
rugby then work
12-07-2007, 15:07
Is this gen (link to the info please) or just rumour?
If it's gen then they have got to be joking, fuel prices have been on the climb (with the odd 1p dip) for months now.:PDT_Xtremez_25:
Check out the Intranet, RAF pubs, personnel, then somewhere else (can't remember) - I'm not clever enough to link it I'm afraid, or speak to your friendly PSF oh I'm sorry HR staff.
Bafoon
Typical always about 18 months behind the drag curve when making T & S policy changes!
Tin basher
12-07-2007, 15:31
At the risk of being lynched by the majority why should the RAF pay HTD anyway.
Most employers don't give a to$$ where you live or how you get to work just the fact that you get there on time and do your job.
Standing by for major incoming from all and sundry tin hat on.
roverboy
12-07-2007, 15:35
This is the letter and hopefully, a linkhttp://www.publications.***************/live/TLetters/T%20Letter334-07.doc
It actually says the reduction is due to "Motoring costs over the past 12 months (petrol, tyres, servicing) have reduced as an increasing number of modern cars become more fuel efficient and service intervals increase"
It doesn't say fuel and servicing costs have reduced. I don't agree with it, but you've got to read the reasons carefully.
At the risk of being lynched by the majority why should the RAF pay HTD anyway.
Most employers don't give a to$$ where you live or how you get to work just the fact that you get there on time and do your job.
Standing by for major incoming from all and sundry tin hat on.
Its no different to civilians getting excess fares, or london weighting.
At the risk of being lynched by the majority why should the RAF pay HTD anyway.
Most employers don't give a to$$ where you live or how you get to work just the fact that you get there on time and do your job.
Standing by for major incoming from all and sundry tin hat on.
Even when The RAF (DHE, I know) decide that your quarter is some way from your place of work?
tommo9999
12-07-2007, 15:46
The rationale for the payment of HTD is explained in JSP752:
HDT is paid because Service personnel are obliged to be mobile. Service personnel, unlike their civilian counterparts, have limited choice in where they work. Service personnel often are able to choose between living in public and private accommodation. To recognise this difference, there are 2 types of support for travel to work: HDT (Public) and HDT (Private)
Hope this helps.
Tin basher
12-07-2007, 15:59
Even when The RAF (DHE, I know) decide that your quarter is some way from your place of work?
POB I would agree there should be some payment for unavoidable travel if you are in service housing and no alternative transport is provided. (They put buses on from outlying 1/4's here not well used as it removes some flex from an early stack or overtime requirement)
Private housing is somewhat different in my view. If you have bought your own place then you made some decisions. It's a nice house, mets your needs in terms of space, good place for the kids, within budget, close enough to be commutable but not so close that you feel you are still on base. Now after making all these decisions you want your employer to pay you to come to work from your own dwelling. WHY?? Not many employers pay up they just want you there on time and doing your stuff.
I realise that most HTD claimers will disagree and that's fine we should have differing opinions on issues or else the world would suddenly become a very boring place.
roverboy
12-07-2007, 16:28
POB I would agree there should be some payment for unavoidable travel if you are in service housing and no alternative transport is provided. (They put buses on from outlying 1/4's here not well used as it removes some flex from an early stack or overtime requirement)
Private housing is somewhat different in my view. If you have bought your own place then you made some decisions. It's a nice house, mets your needs in terms of space, good place for the kids, within budget, close enough to be commutable but not so close that you feel you are still on base. Now after making all these decisions you want your employer to pay you to come to work from your own dwelling. WHY?? Not many employers pay up they just want you there on time and doing your stuff.
I realise that most HTD claimers will disagree and that's fine we should have differing opinions on issues or else the world would suddenly become a very boring place.
Because the RAF are now actively encouraging you to buy your own house and live in it. That is why there are not enough quarters for everyone to live in after they have sold them off
Soon To Leave
12-07-2007, 17:08
Look on the bright side - our HTD contribution will be less!
Being serious, I think it's just another penny pinching exercise and lets face it, we're talking about a lot of pennies.
The Panther
12-07-2007, 17:26
Some days I really wonder why I am leaving, then something like this happens !:PDT_Xtremez_42:
Soon To Leave
12-07-2007, 17:40
Is it any coincidence that the 'Application for Early Termination' button is working at the moment?
Defender of the universe
13-07-2007, 03:14
Its time these numb nut officers got out of their little sorry big offices and started to look around at the world . Maybe then they may realise that their is more to life than penny pinching.
Get ya heads outa ya butts numpties.
MattBombHead
13-07-2007, 03:21
Thing is, as long as 'The Powers That Be' continue to treat the Armed Forces as a business, we'll keep getting shafted by chuffing penny pinching schemes like this.
When will they realise that business needs to make a profit, and as the only thing we can 'produce' is Air Power, by definition, we are not a business. Unfortunatley, we are a financial black hole - loads goes in, next to nothing comes out...
Nutty Bird
16-07-2007, 23:53
The price of fuel is going down.............Where?? I must get posted there!!!!
At the mo I drive a 100 mile round trip on a working day from a quarter and that wasn't by choice!! I never normally grumble about it but if they cut the htd costs there'll be some ears bleeding in psf! As a shift worker my htd costs only just cover the costs of fuel, servicing, parts etc...... Any chance of going on strike if they do?!?
Damn the RAF!!!!!
the lovetoad
17-07-2007, 00:16
The cheapest place for petrol is probably still Saudi, Kuwait and Iraq. Maybe all the accountants have got their maps mixed up.
Once again we seem to be spending more money on Fcuking accountants whose sole purpose is to tell us what we cannot afford.
The Masked Geek
17-07-2007, 08:18
It actually says the reduction is due to "Motoring costs over the past 12 months (petrol, tyres, servicing) have reduced as an increasing number of modern cars become more fuel efficient and service intervals increase"
And how many of us can afford "modern cars" on the pittance they pay us???
Soon To Leave
17-07-2007, 15:45
It's probably the same civil servant that reduced FIA a couple of years ago. Probably got £50 for putting forward this GEMS idea! :PDT_Xtremez_09:
roverboy
17-07-2007, 16:51
And how many of us can afford "modern cars" on the pittance they pay us???
try one of the modern korean cars, they're cheap as chips and have really long warranties nowadays.
Shinyscot
17-07-2007, 19:15
The price of fuel is going down.............Where?? I must get posted there!!!!
At the mo I drive a 100 mile round trip on a working day from a quarter and that wasn't by choice!! I never normally grumble about it but if they cut the htd costs there'll be some ears bleeding in psf! As a shift worker my htd costs only just cover the costs of fuel, servicing, parts etc...... Any chance of going on strike if they do?!?
Damn the RAF!!!!!
May be missing something, but why will there be ears bleeding in PSF? Not as if if the shineys at unit level decided to cut HTD is it?
FootTapper
17-07-2007, 19:34
May be missing something, but why will there be ears bleeding in PSF? Not as if if the shineys at unit level decided to cut HTD is it?
Because they deserve it :)
If they didn't want to be a scribbly they should have tried harder at school ;)
(or chosen better at the CIO)
Shinyscot
17-07-2007, 19:57
Suppose I asked for that...
4mastacker
29-07-2007, 18:52
Cutting allowances to save money is nothing new unfortunately. When the Cott/Witt Harrier Force debacle first started, the stackers were posted, on paper, from Witt to Cott although there were no changes in where we physically worked or lived.
As a result of this paperwork exercise, the scribblies used the opportunity to transfer us from HTD to RPOD, (apologies if I have got the terms wrong, memory fade!) with the consequential reduction in what we could claim.
What was really annoying was that it was only Witt's stackers that got posted to Cott and none of the other ground trades, which remained on Witt's books and therefore, didn't lose out.
I'm glad I'm out now because things just seem to be going from bad to worse.... if that's possible.
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