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Fablon biff chit
17-06-2007, 20:31
For me = Oasis!

Some absolute anthems by Noel. Liam is a tw*t though!!

katinthehat
17-06-2007, 20:43
MODS - do you want to move this to the Music forum??


For me - agree - Oasis have made a lot of good tracks - but the best British band has to be THUNDER......off to see them in December!! Cant wait!!
Mind you - for SB's benefit - Whitesnake have to come close!!:PDT_Xtremez_14:

Cake or Death
17-06-2007, 21:01
Never liked oasis when i was a lad, but i do likem now. liam always ruined'em for me.

My favourite at the minute has to be MAXIMO PARK.

propersplitbrainme
17-06-2007, 21:50
Absolutely..Coldplay.

mightyhunter
18-06-2007, 01:23
Muse for me.



In reality, Marillion are still THE best!!

Man in Black
18-06-2007, 08:05
For me it has to be The Mission. Maybe not the most prolific of bands in chart sales, but still going strong after over 20 years. Closely followed by New Order.

Scaley brat
18-06-2007, 08:26
MODS - do you want to move this to the Music forum??


For me - agree - Oasis have made a lot of good tracks - but the best British band has to be THUNDER......off to see them in December!! Cant wait!!
Mind you - for SB's benefit - Whitesnake have to come close!!:PDT_Xtremez_14:

Spot on KITH Whitesnake are/were awesome. Thunder are worthy pretenders to the crown.

But I am getting to like Stereophonics more and more ! :PDT_Xtremez_30:

roverboy
18-06-2007, 08:56
Closely followed by New Order.

Are they still going? I would've put Pink Floyd, based on the fact they are still one of the biggest grossing bands ever, but they're hardly band of the moment are they?

I'd agree with Muse if this is biggest band TODAY. I reckon they're like Radiohead on speed

NotAnIDOYet
18-06-2007, 09:28
For me it has to be The Mission. Maybe not the most prolific of bands in chart sales, but still going strong after over 20 years. Closely followed by New Order.

Saw them live last year, absolutely awsome!

Agree with Muse as the band of the moment, Maximo Park are also up there. Both slow burners not getting instant success.

Mrs Wobbly
18-06-2007, 09:57
Try this new band hitting the north west at the moment

www.theautomaticheart.co.uk.

Tell me what you think

Scaley brat
18-06-2007, 10:50
I just got a blank page, might be an IGS thing !
What sort of music do they play Mrs W ?

3Chordwonder
18-06-2007, 11:39
The Maximo Park album has been on my stereo for ages....its very good indeed.

I suppose the definition of "best band" is very subjective. For sheer pulling power of audience, then Muse and the Arctic Monkeys have to have some claim on the crown.

Oasis has had their time, they don't really cut it anymore (dreadful songwriting) Radiohead really need to win a few old fans back with a proper song-based album like The Bends. I have not really enjoyed their last 3 efforts at all.

I guess if you're a metal-head, emo kid, Ska freak, Nu-Rave...it's all highly subjective.

I did have to chuckle at the nomination of Thunder though....:PDT_Xtremez_42:

katinthehat
18-06-2007, 12:07
I did have to chuckle at the nomination of Thunder though....:PDT_Xtremez_42:

Well its all down to personal choice - so feel free!!

A great live show from what everyone has told me, what Ive heard, and all the reviews Ive read - not that I am excited one bit about going to see them live in December after 18yrs of waiting to see them!!!:PDT_Xtremez_31:

After all - if we want a great live show, the Robbie Williams takes some beating as a showman these days, and I dont think anyone can deny he can work a crowd.

However - as said - all down to personal taste. As it is British bands, there are many that are mixed nationality so can not be included, which is a shame really.

Personally, I would have loved to have included the Gossip and the likes of Lacuna Coil, but as it says British bands it has limited my choice somewhat!!!::P:

roverboy
18-06-2007, 12:10
After all - if we want a great live show, the Robbie Williams takes some beating as a showman these days, and I dont think anyone can deny he can work a crowd.

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I'd like to work him into a pulp, I hate the cnut ::/: :PDT_Xtremez_25: :PDT_Xtremez_32:

katinthehat
18-06-2007, 12:21
Not saying I like him or not RB - just that are we looking at who peoples favourite bands/performers are, or are we looking at what constitutes the greatest British band??

As far as performers go - Paul Weller & Jools Holland are excellent.

But as I said - it is personal taste, so we are going to get a lot of varying suggestions here, and I would hate anyone to feel that they would be intimidated by their choice.

Everyone is different - I mean, some 7yr old school girl could think Westlife were the best!! See what I mean?

Its not about being trendy, its about personal taste - and as such, I think the reasons for picking a certain band or performer should be given.

I also do not think anyone should be cajoled for their choice - horses for courses and all that.

Music is a very personal thing, and something different to everyone.

roverboy
18-06-2007, 12:27
Not saying I like him or not RB - just that are we looking at who peoples favourite bands/performers are, or are we looking at what constitutes the greatest British band??



I'm not trying to have a go, I'm just saying I've love to put a magazine of 30 rounds through him. Single, well aimed shots only.

I'm not sure you can call him a band though, as he uses session performers. That's always annoyed me somewhat actually, although a single performer gets all the credit they'd be nothing without the musicians, unless they were a 1 man band!! At least Hendrix called his band the Jimi Hendrix Experience!!

Cake or Death
18-06-2007, 13:19
Mrs W are the automatice heart some relative of yours? im sure wobbly mentioned them before and i had a quick listen. they do sound promising.

3Chordwonder
18-06-2007, 13:49
I too have an intense hatred of the fat dancer from Take That.

Zero songwriting ability (thank you Mr Chambers) and he believes entertaining consists of constantly gurning and thrusting the mike at the audience (it'll never pick up at that range anyway you cnut!)

Music for people who know nothing about music.

(see also "Capt" James Blunt)

Mrs Wobbly
18-06-2007, 13:50
Yes the drummer is my nephew he has been in a few bands but this one is by far the best.
They have been compared to muse and radiohead by local music journalist.
Just trying to spread the word for him so go and have a listen and see what you think.

MingMong
18-06-2007, 15:36
As KITH has stated, 'BEST' is totally subjective, and I don't think there would ever bee an agreement on the subject.

I'm sure that i there was a national poll, KITH's choice (not having a dig here Kat!) of Thunder would not even make the top 100, but as they are her favourite band, then in her eyes they are the best. Having seen them numerous times, they would be very high on my list.

Also, a lot of choices are based on current fads. Maximo Park are very highly rated, but where will they be 5 or 6 albums down the line?

As for my choice for the best british band of the moment, it would be a very close run thing betweenMuse and Iron Maiden. Both bands have proved themselves over time, both contain great musicians, and they have both definately proved this year that they are awesome live bands.

As for the Automatic Heart, they are a very good sounding band, who I hope will go far.

georgeios
18-06-2007, 15:40
jyrojets!!!! www.jyrojets.com

waafia
18-06-2007, 15:53
If you like Blues music have a look at Back Door Slam, excellent in support of the Who in the Isle of Man and off to Dublin with them next.:PDT_Xtremez_27:

mcdoodle
18-06-2007, 16:25
by best band in britain, do you mean best british band? if not, i think(again totally subjectively) are The Kings of Leon, or possibly Arcade Fire. These are bands that have cut their teeth in the UK and are almost unheard of in the USA.
but, I think best british band for me is I Am Kloot; 3 albums that i never tire of listening to, brilliant, bitter lyrics; arent very successful in the singles market, but fantastic to see live. Mainstream wise i suppose the Arctic Monkeys do the trick

gemarriott
18-06-2007, 21:00
I like the massed pipes and drums of the Scottish regiments myself.

tommo9999
18-06-2007, 21:02
The Wurzels. Always been great, the best ever.

Pan Warrior
18-06-2007, 23:13
5 star
Tight fit
Black lace
Right said fred
Bros
Milli Vanilli

airframe doctor
18-06-2007, 23:36
My choice for best band has to be The Cure, for around 30 years have been releasing epic tracks & albums. Awesome live performers too saw them in 89 at the NEC in Birmingham, probably the best £20 I've ever spent on a concert, totally blew me away.:PDT_Xtremez_28:

Buphoonery
19-06-2007, 00:19
Has to be Thunder for me........:PDT_Xtremez_30:

Mentaldrummer1980
19-06-2007, 16:04
The biggest band from the UK at the moment on a global scale is Iron maiden. they have sold more records than any other band on the uk scene at the moment. They have played to more people around the world and have a bigger global following than any other UK band that are still together today.
In the 21st centurary Iron Maiden are arguably the most influential metal band of all time.
They have had over 70,000.000 record sales worldwide.
they have released 14 studio albums, 9 live albums and 4 boxsets.
On 19 january 2001 they played to over 250,000 people at Brazils rock in Rio.
And have just headlined Download which is not bad consider they have been going for over 30 years
Bands like Coldplay/Oasis can only dream about becoming as big as Maiden.
and also playing to that amount of people in a gig outside of the UK just wouldnt happen.
I'm not slagging other bands off because each to there own i just wanted to provide a suitable candidate for this title.
If anyone can think of any other UK bands (still together now) that could step up to the plate then i would love to hear about them.
Cheers MD

katinthehat
19-06-2007, 16:34
I suppose we should list bands like The Who, the Rolling Stones, and Pink Floyd - just to metion a few.

Mentaldrummer1980
19-06-2007, 17:14
I suppose we should list bands like The Who, the Rolling Stones, and Pink Floyd - just to metion a few.

Yes these are Amazing iconic bands the Who being a perticular favourite of mine. However these bands are firmly placed in the Classics arena and are sitting back not attempting or able to take on the music industry as it is today.
Whilst Iron maiden are still in the UK mainstream (TODAY as the thread suggests) and storming the respective charts worldwide with no 1 album and single sales to this day.
They have risen to he challenge of Judas Priest, seen off Metallica, brushed aside Korn, and now stand firm against the headrush of a new generation of wannabe's.
they are a UK institution that is still going strong and not to be rekoned with.

roverboy
19-06-2007, 17:26
I suppose we should list bands like The Who, the Rolling Stones, and Pink Floyd - just to metion a few.

I did mention them, but also stated that while they were huge in their day, as they are no longer touring, can they still be a contender for biggest band now? I wish they were though:PDT_Xtremez_39:

mcdoodle
22-06-2007, 15:17
Yes these are Amazing iconic bands the Who being a perticular favourite of mine. However these bands are firmly placed in the Classics arena and are sitting back not attempting or able to take on the music industry as it is today.
Whilst Iron maiden are still in the UK mainstream (TODAY as the thread suggests) and storming the respective charts worldwide with no 1 album and single sales to this day.
They have risen to he challenge of Judas Priest, seen off Metallica, brushed aside Korn, and now stand firm against the headrush of a new generation of wannabe's.
they are a UK institution that is still going strong and not to be rekoned with.

dont iron maiden have a different lead singer than the original line up?
then i would argue that it is almost like 2 bands

roverboy
22-06-2007, 15:33
dont iron maiden have a different lead singer than the original line up?
then i would argue that it is almost like 2 bands

Yes, Paul Di'anno was replaced by Bruce Dickinson, who in turn was replaced by Blaze bailey, who was in turn replaced by Bruce Dickinson again.

Scaley brat
22-06-2007, 15:44
Yes, Paul Di'anno was replaced by Bruce Dickinson, who in turn was replaced by Blaze bailey, who was in turn replaced by Bruce Dickinson again.

And a drummer change and both guitarists..... Isn't Steve Harris the only original member left now ?

roverboy
22-06-2007, 15:51
And a drummer change and both guitarists..... Isn't Steve Harris the only original member left now ?

Dave Murray I think as well, as he and SH were good mates when they were young. Adrian Smith left and was replaced by Janick Gers, but came back as a 3rd guitarist. Clive Burr was replaced by Nicko McBrain on drums. There were several other changes really early on, but if you count from when the band were first taken seriously as artists (ie their first recorded album) I think that's about it mate

mcdoodle
22-06-2007, 15:55
And a drummer change and both guitarists..... Isn't Steve Harris the only original member left now ?

jesus, its almost like the scene from only fools and horses
trigger. " ive had the same brush for 10 years, just replaced the head 4 times and the shaft 6 times":PDT_Xtremez_31:

roverboy
22-06-2007, 16:00
jesus, its almost like the scene from only fools and horses
trigger. " ive had the same brush for 10 years, just replaced the head 4 times and the shaft 6 times":PDT_Xtremez_31:

Not as bad as Rainbow mate, they had 17 different members in all. Ritchie Blackmore was the only original member and that was only cos it was his train set!!

mcdoodle
22-06-2007, 16:23
Not as bad as Rainbow mate, they had 17 different members in all. Ritchie Blackmore was the only original member and that was only cos it was his train set!!

but hasnt ritchie blackmore the lead singer?
i think once you lose the lead singer, it becomes a different band:PDT_Xtremez_28:

roverboy
22-06-2007, 16:27
but hasnt ritchie blackmore the lead singer?
i think once you lose the lead singer, it becomes a different band:PDT_Xtremez_28:

No mate, he was the lead guitarist. Singers included Ronnie James Dio, Graham Bonnett, Joe Lynn Turner. Blackmore was either an egostist or perfectionist, depending on which way you look at it, either way, he's a witch or something now, away with the fairies if you ask me.

mightyhunter
22-06-2007, 16:30
but hasnt ritchie blackmore the lead singer?
i think once you lose the lead singer, it becomes a different band
you could say that about marillion when fish left in '88 and was replaced by steve hogarth.

Mentaldrummer1980
22-06-2007, 18:31
[QUOTEdont iron maiden have a different lead singer than the original line up?
then i would argue that it is almost like 2 bands[/QUOTE]

Yeah Maiden have changed their line up a few times over the years but regardless of the lineup the band is still Iron Maiden.
Dennis Stratton, adrian young, Steve harris, Clive burr, and Paul Diannio were the original lineup (they did have a singer before paul but his name escapes my mind at the moment).

I think if you look at most bands that have been going for as long as maiden or even bands that have been around for a short time. They will have at some point changed their lineup.
Oasis are a prime example but they are still Oasis arent they???

Mentaldrummer1980
22-06-2007, 18:40
you could say that about marillion when fish left in '88 and was replaced by steve hogarth.

Marillion just were not the same when Fish left he was a hard act to follow. I suppose it all depends on the ability of the replacements to whether the band go on to record and sell more records. Unfortunately Marillion kind of slipped from the top however they are still going even today and releasing new records. They have just finished off a uk tour in 07 in support of their new album.
I suppose when a band change its lineup it is quite easy to tell who are the driving force behind the band.
For example Maiden have changed their lineup many times but Steve harris has never left the band and they have always survived. This shows that Harris is the driving force behind maiden.
And as long as Oasis have Noel and liam then i guess it doesnt matter who is behind them on stage.

mcdoodle
22-06-2007, 20:46
theres a bit of a difference bonehead, a peripheral figure in a band leaving to bruce dickinson, the focal point of the band leaving, dont you think?
and besides, didnt iron maiden 'cheat' the singles chart one year just so they could have a number one single? hardly the work of briatains best band i would say!:PDT_Xtremez_42:

MingMong
22-06-2007, 21:18
theres a bit of a difference bonehead, a peripheral figure in a band leaving to bruce dickinson, the focal point of the band leaving, dont you think?
and besides, didnt iron maiden 'cheat' the singles chart one year just so they could have a number one single? hardly the work of briatains best band i would say!:PDT_Xtremez_42:

OK, so you disagree with him, but no need to start insulting people.

Why does losing a singer make it a different band? Most people like a band for their overall sound, which is generally the work of the guys behind the singer.

Try telling Genesis that they are not the same band any more because Peter Gabriel left them, or maybe Pink Floyd. The list goes on and on for bands who have replaced singers and are still going strong.

mcdoodle
22-06-2007, 21:24
OK, so you disagree with him, but no need to start insulting people.

Why does losing a singer make it a different band? Most people like a band for their overall sound, which is generally the work of the guys behind the singer.

Try telling Genesis that they are not the same band any more because Peter Gabriel left them, or maybe Pink Floyd. The list goes on and on for bands who have replaced singers and are still going strong.
ming mong, i hope you were being deliberately obtuse there, lol. bonehead was the geezer in oasis(damn! you hooked me)
of course genesis were a different band when peter gabriel left. I n fact there was a bbc programme on about it a few weeks ago. the sound was totally different.
and i'm not saying that a band fails because it replaces its singer, but the band changes

MingMong
22-06-2007, 21:30
My mistake,

Funny how the way you read a sentence can make it read totally differently than was originally intended :)

mcdoodle
22-06-2007, 21:34
actually, i missed a comma, and choked on my red wine when i read your comments, lol
(red wine hurts when it comes through the nose):PDT_Xtremez_30:

Scaley brat
22-06-2007, 21:42
Dave Murray I think as well, as he and SH were good mates when they were young. Adrian Smith left and was replaced by Janick Gers, but came back as a 3rd guitarist. Clive Burr was replaced by Nicko McBrain on drums. There were several other changes really early on, but if you count from when the band were first taken seriously as artists (ie their first recorded album) I think that's about it mate

Quite so RB I forgot Dave Murray. Clive Burr had to leave the band as he is suffering with Multiple Sclerosis.
Warning, this interview with clive may disturb you and you may not want to read it, but if you do, read it here (http://www.maidennorway.com/content/view/150/93/).

Man in Black
25-06-2007, 08:22
dont iron maiden have a different lead singer than the original line up?
then i would argue that it is almost like 2 bands

You could say that about almost everyband mention on the thread. Oasis have scaked/lost at least four members since they formed, Robert Smith is ther only origiinal Cure member left, The Who have obviously lost 2 members, Pink Floyd have lost Roger Waters and Syd Barrett. Even my 2 choices (The Mission & New Order) don't have all of the original members. A band is a band regardless of who the current members are. They are often more succesful when they change the line-up. Steps for example, are a much better band now they have split up!

NotAnIDOYet
25-06-2007, 08:58
You could say that about almost everyband mention on the thread. Oasis have scaked/lost at least four members since they formed, Robert Smith is ther only origiinal Cure member left, The Who have obviously lost 2 members, Pink Floyd have lost Roger Waters and Syd Barrett. Even my 2 choices (The Mission & New Order) don't have all of the original members. A band is a band regardless of who the current members are. They are often more succesful when they change the line-up. Steps for example, are a much better band now they have split up!

New Order are the same band when recording, Gillian Gilbert has chosen not to play live on tour, prefering to spend time with her and Steven's children. The keyboardist/guitarist that has replaced her live is an awesome musician though! Saw them live in Newcastle last year and it was easily the best gig I have seen them play. Musically an assault on the ears! Couldn't hear for 2 days, that's a gig!

Man in Black
25-06-2007, 09:38
New Order are the same band when recording, Gillian Gilbert has chosen not to play live on tour, prefering to spend time with her and Steven's children. The keyboardist/guitarist that has replaced her live is an awesome musician though! Saw them live in Newcastle last year and it was easily the best gig I have seen them play. Musically an assault on the ears! Couldn't hear for 2 days, that's a gig!

My fault, I was a bit vague. I was actually referring to the fact Ian Curtis is no longer with us and obviously neither are Joy Division. Although Barney, Hooky & Stephen have recorded as Joy Division for the soundtrack to the film 'Control' which is about Ian Curtis' all too short life. Still not the original band though before some smart ar$e makes comment...

katinthehat
25-06-2007, 10:32
To be honest - some bands survive line-up changes - others do not.
For instance - the Jam are back on tour - minus Paul Weller.
I, for one, do not consider it the Jam without him, even though Bruce & Rick are playing with a new vocalist. It would not be right.

mcdoodle
25-06-2007, 13:37
To be honest - some bands survive line-up changes - others do not.
For instance - the Jam are back on tour - minus Paul Weller.
I, for one, do not consider it the Jam without him, even though Bruce & Rick are playing with a new vocalist. It would not be right.

also, (and i do hate to use this as an example), there are 3 bucks fizz's on the go at the moment, one without ANY of the original members, or any members from when they vaguely successful:PDT_Xtremez_14:

NotAnIDOYet
25-06-2007, 13:58
also, (and i do hate to use this as an example), there are 3 bucks fizz's on the go at the moment, one without ANY of the original members, or any members from when they vaguely successful:PDT_Xtremez_14:

McDoodle, the fact you even know this is a tad disturbing!

mcdoodle
25-06-2007, 14:23
as i said, i hate to use this as an example, and i'm not proud of it, lol
but my point still stands, a band changes when the lead singer is replaced and arent the same band:
for example, are queen still queen without freddie mercury? would the smashing pumpkins be the same without billy corgan? the killers without brandon flowers?
i think the answer is no to all 3, so therefore they arent the same band!!!

Rectifier
27-06-2007, 02:13
MUSE

travelled from ISL to watch them play to a packed wembley stadium last week and they were awesome. Supported by Biffy Clyro who are a band to watch out for in the future . . . . . . and to all those My Chemical Romance fans - they were sh1te.

mcdoodle
27-06-2007, 08:58
MUSE

travelled from ISL to watch them play to a packed wembley stadium last week and they were awesome. Supported by Biffy Clyro who are a band to watch out for in the future . . . . . . and to all those My Chemical Romance fans - they were sh1te.

I didnt think anyone over 15 listened to MCR?:PDT_Xtremez_15:

3Chordwonder
27-06-2007, 09:04
MCR - Kerrang reader fodder.

I was in Earls Court a few weeks ago when the "Give It A Name" festival was on. I've never seen so many clones trying to look individual !

Eye liner - check
Studded belt - check
Skinny jeans hanging off arse - check
Converse hi-tops - check
MCR t-shirt - check
Bag with 100 badges on it - check

I am so cool....:PDT_Xtremez_32:

MingMong
27-06-2007, 22:20
I didnt think anyone over 15 listened to MCR?:PDT_Xtremez_15:

Well, i'm 38, a lifelong rock/metal fan, and I actually think MCR are pretty good!
The only reason I didn't watch their whole set at Download Festival was because they clashed with Korn.
They play their own instruments, write their own songs, and for me they were surprisingly good at Wembley when supporting Muse. Oh, and when Gerard Way sings, at least you can hear what he is singing, unlike a lot of metal bands around at the moment!

roverboy
03-07-2007, 16:18
as i said, i hate to use this as an example, and i'm not proud of it, lol
but my point still stands, a band changes when the lead singer is replaced and arent the same band:
for example, are queen still queen without freddie mercury? would the smashing pumpkins be the same without billy corgan? the killers without brandon flowers?
i think the answer is no to all 3, so therefore they arent the same band!!!

Deep Purple were still Deep Purple when Coverdale replaced Gillan, unless they became light mauve or something like that.

Man in Black
03-07-2007, 17:00
as i said, i hate to use this as an example, and i'm not proud of it, lol
but my point still stands, a band changes when the lead singer is replaced and arent the same band:
for example, are queen still queen without freddie mercury? would the smashing pumpkins be the same without billy corgan? the killers without brandon flowers?
i think the answer is no to all 3, so therefore they arent the same band!!!

I think it depends on whose band it is. The Smashing Pumpkins are Billy Corgan's band. He couldn't be replaced. The same as Iron Maiden who were formed by Steve Harris. He couldn't be replaced but they have had 3 lead singers but the founder member has always been there. Queen will obviously never be Queen without Freddie.