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Tin basher
19-03-2007, 11:43
FFS A manchester school wants to ban traditional knotted ties in favour of clip on's because of the safety risk.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/manchester/6465695.stm

WTF Interfering nanny state muppets.

:PDT_Xtremez_30: Dead chuffed now first ever linky thing:PDT_Xtremez_28: Not bad for an IT luddite

referee806
19-03-2007, 11:46
FFS A manchester school wants to ban traditional knotted ties in favour of clip on's because of the safety risk.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/manchester/6465695.stm

WTF Interfering nanny state muppets.

:PDT_Xtremez_30: Dead chuffed now first ever linky thing:PDT_Xtremez_28: Not bad for an IT luddite

Next thing they will ban pens/pencils/bags/rulers/compasses etc, in case they get hurt whilst using any of them.

God this Country is going down the pan..................FFS::P:

mad_mo
19-03-2007, 11:51
"We also feel it is smarter because older children will not wear the ties in a casual way. This is in line with places like Marks and Spencer, the police and the armed forces."

I'd go along with that comment rather than a health & saftey issue.

Tin basher
19-03-2007, 12:08
"We also feel it is smarter because older children will not wear the ties in a casual way. This is in line with places like Marks and Spencer, the police and the armed forces."
I'd go along with that comment rather than a health & saftey issue.

Yes it may make the scruffy oiks look better and avoid the over large knot and short tie look favoured by some but in line with the armed forces -clip on's. I have known a few coppers over the years who wear clip on's but to my knowledge it's not universal across the forces.

:PDT_Xtremez_06: Clip on's or traditional NO I am not going to start a poll.:PDT_Xtremez_06:

Pyro Maniac
19-03-2007, 12:20
I think its a good idea to ban them. For one it means that a ties will be 'Uniform' in appearance and it will stop the school bullys being able to use them as weapons.

I seem to remember a couple of cases in the 80s - 90s where kids were found hanging by their ties.

POB
19-03-2007, 12:20
Clip-ons for Coppers is all about H&S...Getting into a fight etc...Means they can't get strangled.

MoggyCattermole
19-03-2007, 12:36
I think its a good idea to ban them. For one it means that a ties will be 'Uniform' in appearance and it will stop the school bullys being able to use them as weapons.

I seem to remember a couple of cases in the 80s - 90s where kids were found hanging by their ties.


Utter Twaddle.

A LOT more people die in car/plane/train/motorcycle/choking on cabbage leaves/bungee jumping/parachuting/rugby/football etc related accidents .. would you consider banning them ??

This is a society now that is turning our kids into the biggest bunch of softies ever .. its embarassing. You cant have Winners and Losers as it undermines them .. Language exams too hard ??, well we had better make them easier in case the little darlings actually have to work harder.

I have 12 year old daughter and she is the same, and it makes me think back to my teens, I had three paper rounds and I managed to pass all my exams (O-Grades, you know, the ones you actually had to study for) and I was out in all weather's every morning and most evenings after school.

And maybe its just my evil gene coming out but I can think of a few places to hang a clip on tie to inflict pain. I speak from experience in school that the best way to discourage bullying is a good kick in the nads to the person attempting it.

Grow Up Britian.

True Blue Jack
19-03-2007, 12:48
In fairness, my kids' primary school wear polo shirts monogrammed with the school crest, which is both comfortable and looks smart enough.

How long before some kid gets his eye taken out by the clip from one of these "safe" ties being swung around?

The best thing about school ties when I was a kid was that the headmaster (not the sharpest tool in the box) decreed that any pupil coming to school without a tie would be sent home to get it. That ended after about a week when he realised there were no kids in lessons before 10. Brilliant!

SORRY CJ
19-03-2007, 13:10
Utter Twaddle.

Grow Up Britian.


WELL SAID MOGGY C

scaleywife
19-03-2007, 14:18
My Sister-in-law is a spec ed assistant in a school in Staffrodshire which has banned.......

Daisy picking for the risk of Toxoplasmosis from the soil....


WTF?!

DrunkenMonki
19-03-2007, 14:23
They should consider banning shoes at school, wear flip flops instead. That way kids cant have their heads kicked in by school bullies!

rodger-dodger
19-03-2007, 14:39
Am I alone here?

the Tie is not the dangerous one here, it is the the doufous's that swing eachother around by them.::/:

Schools/government etc should be concentrating on the munters that can't seem to get through a day without disrupting, bullying or just generaly being a pain in the ricker.

bring back the cane/ruler/gallows:raf:

rodger-dodger
19-03-2007, 15:04
My Sister-in-law is a spec ed assistant in a school in Staffrodshire




WTF?!

Has she tried contact lenses?:PDT_Xtremez_35:

scaleywife
19-03-2007, 15:22
Very poor Rodg... even for a Monday

MoggyCattermole
19-03-2007, 15:22
My Sister-in-law is a spec ed assistant in a school in Staffrodshire which has banned.......

Daisy picking for the risk of Toxoplasmosis from the soil....


WTF?!


Wow .. :PDT_Xtremez_42:

I have seen it all now !!

rodger-dodger
19-03-2007, 15:24
Very poor Rodg... even for a Monday

Sorry Scales,
I am however still chuckling to myself.:PDT_Xtremez_31:

Tin basher
19-03-2007, 15:31
Am I alone here? the Tie is not the dangerous one here, it is the the doufous's that swing eachother around by them.::/:

Schools/government etc should be concentrating on the munters that can't seem to get through a day without disrupting, bullying or just generaly being a pain in the ricker. bring back the cane/ruler/gallows:raf:

No your not alone and you are correct the tie is not dangerous its the fcukwits who mess about. I think far to many people in the education system are terrified of being sued by junior pikey's mum for some trumped up reason or other.

:PDT_Xtremez_14: May I suggest an addition or two to your "bring back" list birch/stocks. :PDT_Xtremez_14:

scaleywife
19-03-2007, 15:33
Off Topic I would probably too if I wasn't sat here shivering... no Heating on the coldest day in March typical RAF!!Off Topic

Also, my son got bawled out at school for throwing a snowball a couple of years ago. TBF it was at the headmistress' head..... my we larfed!!

coldwar dinosaur
19-03-2007, 16:05
Let's look to the future here.

Once they've got rid of all forms of ties they will need to get rid of the next item bullies will use instead. There goes belts then!

Oh and socks (remember the educational film Scum).

While we're in that area we may as well get rid of shoe laces.

So hawaiian shirts and flip flops it is then!

Captain Slog
19-03-2007, 20:31
Political Correctness is one of my pet hates. I am not a racist or a homophobe and I believe in everyone being entitled to their own opinion. But lets lighten up people and have the ability to have a laugh without fear of the PC brigade pouncing on us.

To that end, have a look at this article in the Daily Mail, I espicially like the bit about the Germans.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/news/news.html?in_article_id=437732&in_page_id=1770

MoggyCattermole
19-03-2007, 23:42
Political Correctness is one of my pet hates. I am not a racist or a homophobe and I believe in everyone being entitled to their own opinion. But lets lighten up people and have the ability to have a laugh without fear of the PC brigade pouncing on us.

To that end, have a look at this article in the Daily Mail, I espicially like the bit about the Germans.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/news/news.html?in_article_id=437732&in_page_id=1770


Thats absolute Class, and I am going to order that book.

White Men of Britian !!

We can no longer going to refer to ourselves as white men, we are gender deprived ethnically challenged fully abled heterosexual member's of a victimless demographic in the religious minority.


Its the only way to stop being seen as the Bad Guys !!

Oh See Jake
20-03-2007, 13:21
II managed to pass all my exams (O-Grades, you know, the ones you actually had to study for) and I was out in all weather's every morning and most evenings after school.



Seems you didn't get the English Language O-Level, then?:PDT_Xtremez_31:

True Blue Jack
20-03-2007, 14:45
So hawaiian shirts and flip flops it is then!

Sorry, can't do that. If the little darlings wear flip flops they may stub their toes.

HansBwix
20-03-2007, 15:16
I wonder if anyone has looked to connect the risk-averse tree hugging Guardianista socialist left-wing bleeding heart pinko one-legged-black-lesbian-single-mother loving policies of our present lords and masters with the fact that kids are now going out to stab each other on a regular basis? Seems to be that if there are no risks in a person's development, then the offer of some form of adrenaline rush where and when it arises (coupled with the de-sensitisation due to uber-violent music/videos/games/films) means that you're going to find it a bit harder to measure the gradient of risk.

And if your kids can't burn off all their energy during the school day the old fashioned way (running around the playground when you're younger, running away from the teachers after you've been busted smoking when you're older) Then it's no wonder they're going nuts when they get back home still full of E-numbers.


Sorry, I chuffing hate Elf'n'Safety!

You can't pick daisies, but have a nice Uzi - I give you cheap Tesco price!::P:

MoggyCattermole
20-03-2007, 15:40
Seems you didn't get the English Language O-Level, then?:PDT_Xtremez_31:

No I didnt.

Thats because if you read my post it says I got the O-GRADE .. :PDT_Xtremez_15:

Tsk Tsk.

Stax
21-03-2007, 04:03
My daughter is about to fully qualify as a teacher. She has been on placement with a bunch of year 5's (9 to 10). Due to the wishy washy regulations, kids who, in my day, were put together in special class to get the attention they required, are now put in mainstream classes. Now its always "ADHD", and before anyone with a child with this has a pop, let me assure you, I know it's real for some kids and is hard work for Mum and Dad. However before these parents go on about "their childs right to be treated the same as the rest", think about the teacher who has to control this kid, in a class of up 30 others and teach all of the kids! My daughter has been spat at, called a biatch and told to Ferk off, by a 9 year old who, quite frankly needs special teaching on a one top one basis IN A SPECIAL CLASS! This however would infringe his (and his parents) right to be treated the same as other children, THEY ARE NOT THE SAME, THEY HAVE ADHD, GET A FERKIN' GRIP AND TEACH THEM SEPOERATLEY!

Rant Over

Stax the Proud Dad!

Rigga
24-03-2007, 18:58
I heard on the Radio today that this change to safety Ties was to prevent the damage that conventional Ties can do when getting caught in the mechanism of a schoolfriends' Revolver.
It could give cause for litigious claims apparently?

Scoop43F
27-03-2007, 17:50
The people who make these things up need to be sacked, job justification by way of spouting out ****e from ur cakehole!!!!
if they bring is in then its another step further into nany state heaven