View Full Version : How many techies.........................
goldenballs mkII
15-12-2006, 22:18
I was wondering how many techies make up the masses (!) of what is left of the RAF.
Then I also thought, how many techies are there in the RAF that don't do trade work ......(instructors,training cells,LITS,IPT,CIO,LEAN,QA,ICATQ,etc etc)
anyone know?::P:
I was wondering how many techies make up the masses (!) of what is left of the RAF.
Then I also thought, how many techies are there in the RAF that don't do trade work ......(instructors,training cells,LITS,IPT,CIO,LEAN,QA,ICATQ,etc etc)
anyone know?::P:
You forgot to mention the sick-notes and other malingering bar-stewards that the rest of us have to cover in their 'years of need'!!!:PDT_Xtremez_25:
To answer, I have no idea, but will soon be about half what it was in 1990 I reckon - if not less
Major Geek
15-12-2006, 22:29
.....Then I also thought, how many techies are there in the RAF that don't do trade work ......(instructors,training cells,LITS,IPT,CIO,LEAN,QA,ICATQ,etc etc)
anyone know?
Well if they weren't doing those lovely jobs you would be m8.
Bored@work
15-12-2006, 22:52
You forgot to mention the sick-notes and other malingering bar-stewards that the rest of us have to cover in their 'years of need'!!!:PDT_Xtremez_25:
The amount of duties that the rest of us have to do because of these work-dodging morons drives me nuts.
goldenballs mkII
16-12-2006, 11:12
Well if they weren't doing those lovely jobs you would be m8.
that maybe. I am not trying to question their contribution, just curious about what seems to be dwindeling numbers of techies, and whether or not we can ever claw some back!
That said, I understand that there are many out of trade because that is their preference.
metimmee
16-12-2006, 14:49
that maybe. I am not trying to question their contribution, just curious about what seems to be dwindeling numbers of techies, and whether or not we can ever claw some back!
That said, I understand that there are many out of trade because that is their preference.
Thats what theyre trying to do at ISK right now, the are rumored to be some quite radical ideas under consideration in order to recover from the current situation.
Thats what theyre trying to do at ISK right now, the are rumored to be some quite radical ideas under consideration in order to recover from the current situation.
Such as what exactly? Come on you can't leave us hanging like that! If theres a rumour going about its best to get it out in the open on here!! After all this is 'The Totally Unofficial Royal Air Force Rumour Network'!
goldenballs mkII
16-12-2006, 20:43
Thats what theyre trying to do at ISK right now, the are rumored to be some quite radical ideas under consideration in order to recover from the current situation.
sorry I should probably know this, but what's ISK??
summat to do with Sea King?:PDT_Xtremez_08:
sorry I should probably know this, but what's ISK??
summat to do with Sea King?:PDT_Xtremez_08:
Ice Station Kilo - a cold place up north! Sure you can work it out from that?!
goldenballs mkII
17-12-2006, 11:17
Ice Station Kilo - a cold place up north! Sure you can work it out from that?!
:PDT_Xtremez_30:
metimmee
17-12-2006, 16:35
Such as what exactly? Come on you can't leave us hanging like that! If theres a rumour going about its best to get it out in the open on here!! After all this is 'The Totally Unofficial Royal Air Force Rumour Network'!
Sorry....basically theyre trying to raid depth manpower - thats fact.
One of the rumours says that they could do that is to close some of the bays perminently for a short term fix. Of course they'll be left with other problems to solve in the medium term but at least they'll have first line manpower.
They're not even bothered about if the candidates are Q'd up; only if they have a minimum of 18 months left in the RAF. A big influx of untrained manpower with a ground school that has had capacity stripped due to leaning leaves you with another, if less critical (supervisory) problem to solve. Do you really want SAC Dangerous out of the tyre bay back on the line?
I've heard rumours of partial civilianisation to plug some gaps. It would be interesting to see if those civilians are redundees (such a word?).
It'll be tricky for them to raid depth since they've already been leaned, so any transfer of manpower to first line will undoubtably impact somewhere else badly.
Sorry....basically theyre trying to raid depth manpower - thats fact.
One of the rumours says that they could do that is to close some of the bays perminently for a short term fix. Of course they'll be left with other problems to solve in the medium term but at least they'll have first line manpower.
They're not even bothered about if the candidates are Q'd up; only if they have a minimum of 18 months left in the RAF. A big influx of untrained manpower with a ground school that has had capacity stripped due to leaning leaves you with another, if less critical (supervisory) problem to solve. Do you really want SAC Dangerous out of the tyre bay back on the line?
I've heard rumours of partial civilianisation to plug some gaps. It would be interesting to see if those civilians are redundees (such a word?).
It'll be tricky for them to raid depth since they've already been leaned, so any transfer of manpower to first line will undoubtably impact somewhere else badly.
That would fall foul of employment law, elements of which the Armed Forces are subject to. You cannot sack someone and then bring in another person to do their job, even if it's the same person.
Hu Jardon
17-12-2006, 17:00
You cannot sack someone and then bring in another person to do their job, even if it's the same person.
Ah but the military had the rules re-written just before Tranche 1 and now you can legally work as a civil servant in your own job without giving your redundancy money back - provided the advert for the job didn't say Ex RAF or military experience "essential" or words to that effect.
But the chances are any redundees would be recruited as contracting temps - its been going on for years at Wyton while guys waited for their security clearances, many guys came working as "consultants"
dodgysootie
17-12-2006, 17:42
The wheels on the bus go round round round!!
Use the meltdown at ISK thread.
Hu Jardon
17-12-2006, 18:21
The wheels on the bus go round round round!!
Use the meltdown at ISK thread.
Why? Are you the only one affected then?
dodgysootie
17-12-2006, 18:41
Why? Are you the only one affected then?
Sorry HJ, I was referring to Metimmee's post. Senior moment + wine = boll*cks. Time for the pub.
Hu Jardon
17-12-2006, 18:47
Sorry HJ, I was referring to Metimmee's post. Senior moment + wine = boll*cks. Time for the pub.
No sweat pal, been there done that and just about to go back
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Ah but the military had the rules re-written just before Tranche 1 and now you can legally work as a civil servant in your own job without giving your redundancy money back - provided the advert for the job didn't say Ex RAF or military experience "essential" or words to that effect.
But the chances are any redundees would be recruited as contracting temps - its been going on for years at Wyton while guys waited for their security clearances, many guys came working as "consultants"
F**ck me! Is there nothing left of the RAF I was in? I probably couldn't hack it now anyway, me knees are buggered and I'd be like ILLBW - going sick all the time, as in sick and tired of all the pink fluffiness!
Hu Jardon
17-12-2006, 20:50
F**ck me! Is there nothing left of the RAF I was in? I probably couldn't hack it now anyway, me knees are buggered and I'd be like ILLBW - going sick all the time, as in sick and tired of all the pink fluffiness!
You learn quickly exerk - your beginning to see the state we are really in
Hu
tankerworker
17-12-2006, 21:42
It's not just depth that's getting hammered.
Lucky old Marham is apparently getting 27 techies from Brize. All heavies.
Good job we're not already struggling for manpower... oh wait a minute...
Billy Whizz
18-12-2006, 08:37
It's not just depth that's getting hammered.
Lucky old Marham is apparently getting 27 techies from Brize. All heavies.
Good job we're not already struggling for manpower... oh wait a minute...
27?
Got told it was over 60 - all the overbourne posts!
Expect a similar fate for all the overbourne posts at Lyneham too.
tankerworker
18-12-2006, 08:56
27 to Marham and they'll know before christmas.
There's going to be almost 100 from the unit, in another 2 trawls. But split across Benson, Odiham, Lossie and Leuchars.
Cleverly, they're sending all the longest in post...bye bye experience!
Billy Whizz
18-12-2006, 09:00
27 to Marham and they'll know before christmas.
There's going to be almost 100 from the unit, in another 2 trawls. But split across Benson, Odiham, Lossie and Leuchars.
Sounds very similar to the trawl they did for St Athans in the early 90s.
Anyone who'd done over 5 years at BZN got posted!
Only way to be sure of avoiding the chop is to get screened or never do more than 5 years in 1 place.
So much for minimal movement - and a sure way to increase the PVR rate!
tankerworker
18-12-2006, 09:07
The 'I'll PVR first' line is being echoed around with great regularity.
goldenballs mkII
18-12-2006, 17:11
Cleverly, they're sending all the longest in post...bye bye experience!
oh for fooks sake!!:PDT_Xtremez_42:
Oi!
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goldenballs mkII
19-12-2006, 19:37
Oi!
GBII - Get yer own Avatar!
how's that?:PDT_Xtremez_28:
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