Transfer Window

[propersplitbrainme]

Loads of managers complain about the transfer window so I wonder why clubs don't challenege the legality of it.
Surely it must be an illegal restraint on the ability of clubs to conduct their business and on the employment rights of the players themselves as they cannot leave one employer and move on to another unless the window is open.

[Albert Park]

Loads of managers complain about the transfer window so I wonder why clubs don't challenege the legality of it.
Surely it must be an illegal restraint on the ability of clubs to conduct their business and on the employment rights of the players themselves as they cannot leave one employer and move on to another unless the window is open.It's not illegal. That's settled that. Can someone close the thread?

[propersplitbrainme]

It's not illegal. That's settled that. Can someone close the thread?


Oh, can you show me some reference for this please?

[AllWoman]

I can't be 100% sure but I imagine it is an integral part of their contracts and terms and conditions of employment!

[propersplitbrainme]

I can't be 100% sure but I imagine it is an integral part of their contracts and terms and conditions of employment!

It was once an integral part of a woman's contract when she joined the RAF that she would leave if she became pregnant. That didn't stand up to any scrutiny when a legal challenge was mounted and so it was changed.

[Albert Park]

Oh, can you show me some reference for this please?Are you being serious, or is it a wind-up?

Link (http://www.answers.com/transfer%20window?nafid=3).

[propersplitbrainme]

Are you being serious, or is it a wind-up?

Link (http://www.answers.com/transfer%20window?nafid=3).


I can think of better things to start wind-ups on AP.
The link just explains what the tranfer window is, but thanks anyway. I still reckon it wouldn't stand up to a legal challenge.

[MingMong]

Was watching the coverage of the Bolton v Derby game last night, it seems that the footie pundits they had on last night pretty much agree with what propersplitbrainme is saying.

It seems a lot of the managers don't like the transfer ruling, so how long till it gets challenged in a similar style to what happened with the Bosman ruling?

[fergo]

Obviously there could be legal issues. you only have to look at Bosman and how thta changed football.
Football contracts can be very comlictaed but liek any other industry have to meet with various laws and regulations. IS there any other jobs in the world when you can only leave your employer in certain months of the year?
There have been various legal issues, Bosman, Tevez, Webster. If the deal with Andy Webster goes ahead that could change it all again

http://sport.independent.co.uk/football/news/article2514289.ece

There has been an argument that the transfer window does not conform to employment law. Personally i am not a fan of it at all. Just means agents make more money!

[propersplitbrainme]

There has been an argument that the transfer window does not conform to employment law. Personally i am not a fan of it at all. Just means agents make more money!

Agreed, because prices get inflated during the narrow window of opportunity during which trading is allowed. Pay our price or lose out in other words.

[Liney Hasbeen]

So what your saying is the transfer windowis for the so called 'big four'

[propersplitbrainme]

So what your saying is the transfer windowis for the so called 'big four'

Not really, just that the price of even mediocre players is inflated due to the 'buy 'em now or lose out' system that the window seems to encourage.

[tommo9999]

Steve Coppell is one of the loudest critics of the window. Inflated prices, fire sale, restriction of trade etc etc. There are loads of reasons why it should be changed, but as FIFA made the decision, then any change is unlikely to happen quickly.

[Liney Hasbeen]

Money makes the decisions.......... and who has all the money ?

How many good players are being held in the rear ranks of the big 4, cos no one can afford them and certainly not during an open window time.

effects the wider game, especially nationally.

[tommo9999]

Money makes the decisions.......... and who has all the money ?

How many good players are being held in the rear ranks of the big 4, cos no one can afford them and certainly not during an open window time.

effects the wider game, especially nationally.

The window wouldn't affect that directly I don't think - remember AC Milan buying up all the talent in Serie A to stop other teams having decent players. I think they had a first team squad of 48 players at one point, and some 27 were current internationals.

[fergo]

Money makes the decisions.......... and who has all the money ?

How many good players are being held in the rear ranks of the big 4, cos no one can afford them and certainly not during an open window time.

effects the wider game, especially nationally.

Off Topic Some player are happy to be in the rear ranks of a Man Untd, Chelski, etc picking up a wage than to go and ply their trade elsewhere.

There have been numerous cases of this. Players will sit out their contract and then go on a free.

[fergo]

So what your saying is the transfer windowis for the so called 'big four'

Correct me if im wrong but i dont think Chelsea brought in anyone last January as Mourinho siad at the time he new they would get ripped off with inflated prices

[Shanester]

All the transfer window does is force the teams that are not doing well or are hampered by injuries to fork out for players at inflated prices. These players then have little chance of making the immediate impact required because the time for them to bed in is not there. Like Sir Alex said, they've had little success in the January window, it would be easier to have it open all year round, but to stop players swapping from team to team, they should make the contracts harder to get out of. After all they do get paid a considerable sum of money, and the only real objection to this would be from the agents, and is'nt it them who onlt really benefit from the instability that the current system creates.

[tommo9999]

Off Topic Just hope nobody tries to nick Hutton off us Fergo!!

[fergo]

Steve Coppell is one of the loudest critics of the window. Inflated prices, fire sale, restriction of trade etc etc. There are loads of reasons why it should be changed, but as FIFA made the decision, then any change is unlikely to happen quickly.

he is spot on. Not a fan of it at all. There is always the panic buying in the last week, doesnt suit anyone excpet the agents.

And it ruins Champman!!!!

[fergo]

Off Topic Just hope nobody tries to nick Hutton off us Fergo!!

Think we are safe the way he has played the last month. Not had the same drive at all. Keeps taking the ball very square on.
But hope we can keep hold of him as he has been great and can only get better.

[fergo]

All the transfer window does is force the teams that are not doing well or are hampered by injuries to fork out for players at inflated prices. These players then have little chance of making the immediate impact required because the time for them to bed in is not there. Like Sir Alex said, they've had little success in the January window, it would be easier to have it open all year round, but to stop players swapping from team to team, they should make the contracts harder to get out of. After all they do get paid a considerable sum of money, and the only real objection to this would be from the agents, and is'nt it them who onlt really benefit from the instability that the current system creates.

Almost totally agree with you.
However, in the past, before Bosman, football clubs had all the power. Now players have a bit of a say in their own destiny. Some could be said to be greedy and play the system but many people in many walks of life do that.
I think that player bought in a panic buy in January are far more likely to flop and we have seen it time and time agian. The only time i have seen it pulled off well was Redknapp with his buys fro Tottenham to keep Portsmouth up and Dugarry at Birmingham doing likewise.
I dont have a problem with footballers wages whatsoever but the money agents make on deals is crazy.