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Sisyphus
12-06-2006, 09:53
If you were to be asked what principles an engineer should work by, what would they be? I think that they're important - without them, we're no better than any other bunch of gash shags.
Here's some I would subscribe to:
- Be proud of your work - if you’re not proud of what you do, who else will be?
- The ‘books’ are the expression of accumulated experience and the designer’s best efforts, so using them wisely is big and clever.
- The paperwork for a job is part of the job so sign for what you’ve done and never sign for something you haven’t done – especially supervision!
- Taking unnecessary risk is just that – unnecessary.
- Learn from others’ mistakes, and be big enough to let others learn from yours.
These are not exclusive or exhaustive I appreciate, but they're a start. Do you agree with any of these and what would you add?
Captain Pugwash
12-06-2006, 11:08
How about tech integrity-if you feck up, own up.
monobrow
12-06-2006, 12:01
How about tech integrity-if you feck up, own up.
Defo. own up if you **** up.
I would just like to re-emphasise what the first Post said, because, mainly, I agree with them. However:
- Be proud of your work - if you’re not proud of what you ARE DOING - WHY ARE YOU DOING IT??
- The ‘books’ are the expression of accumulated experience and the designer’s best efforts, so using them wisely is big and clever.
- AND IF YOU DO WHAT THEY SAY, YOU CAN BLAME ANY FAULT ON THEM!
- The paperwork for a job is A LARGE part of the job so sign for what you’ve done and never sign for something you haven’t done – especially supervision! BECAUSE IT WILL COME BACK AND BITE YOU.
- Taking unnecessary risk is MORE THAN just that – unnecessary AND STUPID.
- Learn from others’ mistakes, and be big enough to let others learn from yours.
No addition to this last one because its simply the best lesson ever to learn.
The Masked Geek
12-06-2006, 14:43
- Learn from others’ mistakes, and be big enough to let others learn from yours.
No addition to this last one because its simply the best lesson ever to learn.
This is only true where the heirarchy is intelligent enough to allow the learning rather than just dropping a ton of sh1t on you and burrying the problem.
A board of officers concerned with flight safety were advised to learn from mistakes rather than just charge people which would then encourage them to come forward with their mistakes.
They were advised by a civilian board, who had reduced air-safety issues drasticaly in the civilian sector by following these rules.
The officers concerned responded with the rather docile comment "but we have to charge somebody"......wanker
If in doubt ask!
Rather be thought thick by asking, than proved it by not!
mightyhunter
12-06-2006, 19:00
If in doubt ask!
Rather be thought thick by asking, than proved it by not!i agree with this one a lot. NEVER be afraid to ask questions. i think that's a problem with the lads coming through now.
How about tech integrity-if you feck up, own up.
Sage words man, totally agree.
Don't be afraid to ask either, contrary to what you might think you don't know everything about whatever aircraft or equipment you are working on.
NEVER assume, always check.
reddeathdrinker
13-06-2006, 03:13
NEVER be afraid to ask questions. i think that's a problem with the lads coming through now.
All our new AMM's are indoctrinated with the old "The only stupid question is the one you don't ask....."
tag_lincoln
14-06-2006, 08:44
I remember at Halton on my techie cse being told " It's better to look stupid, than be stupid" ie owning up might make you look stupid whereas trying to cover up or not telling any one IS being stupid. Stuck with me 20 yrs now, still works.
enginesuck
14-06-2006, 11:59
All our new AMM's are indoctrinated with the old "The only stupid question is the one you don't ask....."
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Aye right thats why you rounded off 38 bolts on a manhole cover in the wing when i took you out on your first job on a Nimrod!!!!
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reddeathdrinker
14-06-2006, 20:34
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Aye right thats why you rounded off 38 bolts on a manhole cover in the wing when i took you out on your first job on a Nimrod!!!!
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Ahh. Those were the days :) Only 38? I'm surprised. And flattered you remember :PDT_Xtremez_30:
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