View Full Version : Unbelievable sentence
TotalWar
22-10-2007, 14:18
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/london/7056325.stm
CodeMonkey
22-10-2007, 14:21
Read that this morning, just the look on the attackers face says it all really. This guy should be behind bars not being supervised.
BuckyOHare
22-10-2007, 14:27
Ah the good old British justice system :PDT_Xtremez_26: Just what the poor bugger fought for I'm sure
This should be refered to the Attorney General by the CPS and taken to the Court of Appeal.
I guess this judge is question has been following orders of the previous Home Secretary on who to jail!
the lovetoad
22-10-2007, 14:37
Don't know about anyone else but I have the overwhelming urge to pay this tw@t a visit with a couple of hundred litres of cillitt bang.
If this old man was a memebr of my family I would hunt the attacker down and make sure HE spent the rest of his life in a care home getting fed through a straw.
BuckyOHare
22-10-2007, 14:51
I guess this judge is question has been following orders of the previous Home Secretary on who to jail!
Hmm. See the whole problem with that order was that judges have either:
all been lobotomised and have lost common sense, or
were issued no guidance on the criteria for sentencing (bit daft cos how else would they qualify as judges?)I think it's 1 because this man is clearly a danger to society and thus should have been sentenced to 3 years custodial not supervison. On the other hand, our illustrious QCs are sending people down for not paying council tax, which whilst I agree technically carries a custodial whack, surely elderly Mrs Jones from down the stret is not a danger to the public (unless her chutneys are counted).
Realist78
22-10-2007, 15:20
The police wonder why it is that sometimes Joe Public takes the law into his own hands! This tw@t deserves a fcuking good drubbin'.::/:
What an astonishgly brave person Stephen Gordon is, first, without a seconds thought for his own safety, he blinds a 96 year old pensioner, then conducts an immense rear guard action by running away from 2 kids.
I would be the first in the queue to volunteer to put this little pr1ck out of his misery permanently!
Hmm. See the whole problem with that order was that judges have either:
all been lobotomised and have lost common sense, or
were issued no guidance on the criteria for sentencing (bit daft cos how else would they qualify as judges?)
It would be interesting to see what the sentencing guidelines are on this particular case. If anyone wants to ask, the e-mail address is below.
info@sentencing-guidelines.gsi.gov.uk
fat lazy techie
22-10-2007, 20:40
Sent in an e-mail to the clowns in charge. Thank's mo for the address, I hope the ramblings of a mad man make some sort of sense. I was seething when I wrote it so it's probably gibberish, but what the hey.
How can the British Justice system be taken seriously with this latest ludicrous outcome? For someone to assault a 96 year old, who fought for king and country during WW2, is totally inexcusable. Not only that but to receive only a supervision order is beyond a joke and sends out the message that it's something you can get away with.
Now I myself am a serving member of the armed forces and will do my up most to protect this, once proud, nation. However when I see things like this going on it makes me ask myself why I bother. I hope you can provide me with an answer as to why the system has been an ass and let this person walk free. Is it due to overcrowding in our crumbling prison service?
fat lazy techie
23-10-2007, 19:35
Just recieved a reply to my sent e-mail. Read below and come to your own conclusions.
Thank you for your recent e-mail.
Whilst I cannot comment on the detail of an individual decision, you will have seen from the media reports that the Judge and the advocates recognised that this case involved a difficult balancing exercise where the offence warranted a lengthy prison sentence.
However, a court has to take account of many considerations when it imposes sentence. One is to punish the offender, another is to deter both the offender and others from committing criminal offences and another is to take what steps it can to make it less likely that this individual will commit further offences.
It will often happen that a court has to make hard choices between these objectives and there will be times when the importance of dealing with the issues that have led to an offender offending is the most important. The effect of the crime already committed cannot be undone but the court may be able to prevent other people becoming victims in the future – this is particularly true where an offender is affected by mental illness or by addiction to alcohol or to drugs.
Any community sentence is demanding; many require an offender to do unpaid work for the benefit of the community as a whole and they also allow opportunity to change the underlying causes of the offending behaviour. If an offender does not successfully complete the terms of the order, he will be returned to court and will usually receive the sentence that would have been imposed if the community sentence had not been chosen.
In any case that is reported in the media, there will only be the briefest summary of the information that was given to the court and Judges and magistrates are very experienced in being able to balance all the information that is presented to them. If you have not already done so, you may wish to visit your local magistrates' court or Crown Court and observe the cases that are dealt with there.
Yours sincerely,
K**** McC*****
Head of Sentencing Guidelines Secretariat,
AllWoman
23-10-2007, 19:44
Another O2 theif left roaming the street, why we are surprised I don't know its happening every day(or so it seems).
I would like to say well done to the two kids who took chase and then had the courage to give evidence against him! Good on yer! Just goes to show not all the youth of today are bad eggs!!
Oh and I love the bit in the letter of reply for the Head of Sentencing....
Any community sentence is demanding; many require an offender to do unpaid work for the benefit of the community as a whole
Lets just give this wanker the chance to assault someone else!! So much for protecting the people of the community!!
MontyPlumbs
23-10-2007, 20:11
If anyone has the time, a quick trip to the Gallery of the local Mags or Crown court can be quite an interesting experience.....
Sooo, If a relative decided to blind this cnut with a punch to the face they would only get a 3 year 'supervision' order too?
Might take a few goes to get it right though.
Sounds like a good deal to me.
Why was it that it was only 2 kids who gave chase? looked to me that there was a tram full of onlookers. WTF did they do? Just stand there and watch thi waste of space attack an elderly man?
wankers the lot of them.
barry the brummie
23-10-2007, 20:40
I bet if it was a white bloke who thumped the old fellow he'd be in jail now
BuckyOHare
23-10-2007, 23:47
Sooo, If a relative decided to blind this cnut with a punch to the face they would only get a 3 year 'supervision' order too?
Might take a few goes to get it right though.
Sounds like a good deal to me.
Why was it that it was only 2 kids who gave chase? looked to me that there was a tram full of onlookers. WTF did they do? Just stand there and watch thi waste of space attack an elderly man?
wankers the lot of them.
They would probably all have been arrested and charged with assault an sent down for 6 months each
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