Man arrested "for doing the right thing" !

[Tashy_Man]

Fecking bonkers PC Britain strikes again...take a look HERE (http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/topstories/2007/10/20/man-arrested-for-stopping-lout-89520-19981083/)

Crack on..........:PDT_Xtremez_09:

[230Tiger]

Ahh, Britain in the 21st century! Great it certainly aint.

Bring back the "Keep Britain Tidy" campaign.

[Rich_P]

Unfortunately that's the sort of thing I would of done in the said situation as well. :PDT_Xtremez_21:

He should of just kicked the bastrd in the head and saved himself the hassle.

[Chilliboy]

What makes it worse is that the lad's mother was there and allowed him to do it in the first place.

[fat lazy techie]

It makes me wonder why we feckin bother.

Grabbing someones clothes could be construed as assault, are they having a fecking laugh? Kicking seven shades of crap out of them perhaps. I have to ask WTF his mother was doing, letting the little scrote do what he did. If I had kids and caught them doing the same I think they would get what I would have got, some hairy side education. Oh but I forgot you can't even discipline your own kids in this pink and fluffy PC country that is run by clowns.

[mad_mo]

Grabbing someones clothes could be construed as assault, are they having a fecking laugh?

Sadly no!. Being racially or religiously abusive to an individual can be classed as common assault!.

[Vagabond]

What was the bulls***t Jack Straw was going on about a few weeks ago telling us we needed to tackle criminal behaviour ourselves.

Coppers also need to have a word with themselves aswell.

[mad_mo]

Heres my take on it.

Said brat is throwing a load of pamphlets down the street. Now it's a criminal offence to drop litter.

So the chap detains the said brat and in my books is justified in doing so as he is carrying out a Citizens Arrest :

Anyone who is in the act of committing an offence, or whom the arrestor has reasonable grounds for suspecting to be in the act of committing an offence.

I cannot beleive it took 6 weeks for the chap to be given the outcome on any further action against him. Please dont tell me that the case what handed to the local CPS office!!!. This pathetic incident could have been dealt with at Station level by a senior officer.

[Tashy_Man]

Oh but I forgot you can't even discipline your own kids in this pink and fluffy PC country that is run by clowns.

Of course you fecking can it's just that some use this as an excuse....i'll smack my kids if they deserve it, they know that. In the past when they've been ranting and raving i've given them childline's number and told them to ring if they feel unhappy about living with caring parents that want the best for them.

Crack on.................:PDT_Xtremez_09:

[Canberraman]

Have any of you bought a Poppy yet? Last year with box of poppies on the shop counters was a box of pins, This year, no pins. On asking we were told the pins have been witheld in case anyone hurts themselves! When are we going to get rid of the PC Brigade and the equally stupid goody goody brigade. Practically every thing that has gone wrong in this now forsaken bit land that was the UK can be laid at the feet of the PCs and goody goodies and finally at the feet of government for allowing the stupid prats to take over.

Ken

[Teh Wal]

Fecking bonkers PC Britain strikes again...take a look HERE (http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/topstories/2007/10/20/man-arrested-for-stopping-lout-89520-19981083/)


I had something (remotely) similar happen to me a few years ago.
I was living in the married patch up here at ISL. Out the back of our MQ was a path that was fairly well used by anyone and everyone. Anyhoo, for a period of 2 or 3 weeks someone was chucking stones over the back fence (wooden slatted, 6ft tall) at the house windows and sliding patio doors causing chips but rather fortunately no breakages - which was surprising considering the sizes of the stones being thrown. And it was happening to my neighbours too, who had a 3 year old who's toys and play area indoors was close to the patio doors.

So this one afternoon I was opening the backdoor to go out to the shed when there was a bang and a rattle - more stones against the patio doors! I saw 2 figures thru the fence so I started sprinting and cleared the fence in one bound (well, that's how it felt!). I chased the figures and quickly realised that it was 2 youngish girls. Instead of splitting up they stayed together; I caught up with them quite quickly, fortunately one of 'em was wearing a hoodie - I grabbed the hood and both of them stopped running. At this point I realised that they were about 12 or 13 years old.
Neither of them were willing to disclose where either of them lived until I mentioned 'Police'. Both were:
a) Defiant - It wasn't us, it was someone else.
which led to
b) Sorry, we won't do it again, don't tell our parents.

Turned out both lived on the patch. So I took them to the first girls house (maintaining a firm grip on her hood).

And this is where the connection with the news report kicks in.

I knocked on the door and both her mother and father came to the door. They looked a bit shocked at this middle-aged bloke (I was about 40 at the time) hanging onto their daughter. I explained who I was, what had happened and the fact that it had been going on for 3 weeks.

The fathers first words to me were "Did you manhandle or touch my daughter?" !!!!!!

How I stopped myself from punching the cnut I still don't know.

The girl maintained that it wasn't her and that it was someone else. Her parents chose to believe her rather than some dodgy looking bloke who claimed he was a fellow serviceman (and SNEC) that lived around the corner and was quite willing to leave hs telephone number, address, workplace ext number plus the testimony of at least 3 of his neighbours as to what had been going on to them too. In their eyes I was in the wrong not her :(

The 2nd girls parents were more accepting of the circumstances.

Funnily enough the stone throwing never re-occured.

[ThrottleJockey]

Its because the English Legal System is very different to how its represented on TV.
Everyone thinks that hitting someone as assault, when in fact it is battery/abh/gbh.

Assault is defined as 'Putting Victim in fear of immediate physical harm' and thats why such acts as grabbing clothes, even as little as silent phone calls is classed as assault!

Im not saying i agree with it, but its how it works.

My old Law Lecturer would be proud.:PDT_Xtremez_26:

[box-of-frogs]

FFS! This is the sort of stuff that really grips my sh1t! Why are we bothering to fight in various sandy sh1tholes when this kind of thing is happening back home. Arrrgggghhhhh!!!!!!

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[mad_mo]

Its because the English Legal System is very different to how its represented on TV.


I think your too young to have watched the orginal Crown Court TV shows. But they were very accurate in some respects to how a trial was undertaken.

[ThrottleJockey]

I think your too young to have watched the orginal Crown Court TV shows.

Probably, certainly doesnt ring a bell!

But I mean when you see people arrested for 'Assault' on TV Dramas, it is not actualy assault as people perceive. It is actually ABH, thus that is the false portrayal i am speaking of.

[OldPhairy]

Have any of you bought a Poppy yet? Last year with box of poppies on the shop counters was a box of pins, This year, no pins. On asking we were told the pins have been witheld in case anyone hurts themselves! When are we going to get rid of the PC Brigade and the equally stupid goody goody brigade. Practically every thing that has gone wrong in this now forsaken bit land that was the UK can be laid at the feet of the PCs and goody goodies and finally at the feet of government for allowing the stupid prats to take over.

Ken

I couldn't agree more Canberraman!

[Fat2at]

There is a silver lining though - if you're in the right, the authorities will back you up - at least that's what happened at Waddo 4 years ago.

Close mate of mine was on the external gate as the armed guard - some local scrote aged about 14 - 15 walked past him on his way home off camp. As he passed he finished the crisps he was eating and dropped the packet - not 10 yards from the guards.

My mate shouted him and said pick it up - F*ck off was the reply. Ok mate, you won't be getting back on camp though my mate shouted back.

30 minutes later the kid's dad turns up red faced and angry demanding to know which RAF wakner had been abusing his son - who had come home in tears. 'Me' said my armed mate and started to tell him what had gone off.

The bloke lost it , started calling him a bully, he'd have his job, he's going to the papers etc etc. With this my mate simply said 'here's the guard commander's number - speak to him - I'm trying to do a job here'.

At this point the pikey leapt at my mate - in full view of the queuing traffic - and tried wrestling the rifle off of him! Star that he is, my mate took one step back, undid his sling and rifle-whipped the tosser straght in the forehead - knocking him out cold in a oner. Guard commander/medic was called and the situation was stopped.

Here's the bonus - 2 weeks later my mate gets a commendation off the staish for 'use of minimum force in a difficult situation'. Result!

Admit it though - how much would you like to have done that and been patted on the back! PR with the locals? Yes usually, but not today!:PDT_Xtremez_30:

[ThrottleJockey]

Haha top man!

If only this was how civvi street worked! Unfortunately not.